Beck remembers MLK

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"You can judge a man by his enemies"...to to to true!

My guess is, his detractors that say he shouldn't have been allowed to hold that there, are the same that call people bigots and intolerant for saying the Mosque shouldn't be where it is...

You have to love that kind of hypocrisy.

To me Beck showed poor taste in the timing and venue: he did it on the anniversary and at the same place where Martin Luther King Jr gave his historic " I have a dream..." speech. Beck didn't say anything to directly contradict that message but he didn't say anything in support of it either. Palin, I don't think you get much more of a polarizing figure in the US these days (including Hillary Clinton!), and she (along with Rand Paul) has become an icon for the regressive side of the Tea Party movement.

This could have been staged a week earlier, a week later or someplace else and I don't think it would have been as big a deal, but on the anniversay of an iconic speech that promoted equality and acceptance, it just feels wrong to me.
 

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To me Beck showed poor taste in the timing and venue: he did it on the anniversary and at the same place where Martin Luther King Jr gave his historic " I have a dream..." speech.
I agree. But as has been pointed out, that's what freedom gets you. I think it was distasteful, like I think a Mosque that close to ground zero is distasteful. Am I willing to shut either down? No. Again, that's what freedom gets you.
Beck didn't say anything to directly contradict that message but he didn't say anything in support of it either. Palin, I don't think you get much more of a polarizing figure in the US these days (including Hillary Clinton!), and she (along with Rand Paul) has become an icon for the regressive side of the Tea Party movement.
I couldn't agree more.

This could have been staged a week earlier, a week later or someplace else and I don't think it would have been as big a deal, but on the anniversay of an iconic speech that promoted equality and acceptance, it just feels wrong to me.
It was a tactic, he timed it so it would get headlines.
 

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What frustrates the left the most, who thought it was gonna be a tea party rally and who never bothered to check Beck's website to read the rules.......Is that it was well organised....it was not political except that not many of the left attended....

and finaly.... he had a bigger attendance than Al Sharpton
 

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What frustrates the left the most, who thought it was gonna be a tea party rally and who never bothered to check Beck's website to read the rules.......Is that it was well organised....it was not political except that not many of the left attended....

and finaly.... he had a bigger attendance than Al Sharpton
I won't argue that his message seemed benign.
 

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To me Beck showed poor taste in the timing and venue: he did it on the anniversary and at the same place where Martin Luther King Jr gave his historic " I have a dream..." speech.

Ah, but that smacks of intolerance, even bigotry. Our job is to support Beck's right to pick this time and place, and as people who support freedom of religion, I mean freedom of speech, it is our duty to support the ground zero mosque, I mean Beck's decision to ride on MLK's history. Anyone who finds it thoughtless or in bad taste is obviously a just a racist bigot, you know.
 

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Ah, but that smacks of intolerance, even bigotry. Our job is to support Beck's right to pick this time and place, and as people who support freedom of religion, I mean freedom of speech, it is our duty to support the ground zero mosque, I mean Beck's decision to ride on MLK's history. Anyone who finds it thoughtless or in bad taste is obviously a just a racist bigot, you know.
Hence...
My guess is, his detractors that say he shouldn't have been allowed to hold that there, are the same that call people bigots and intolerant for saying the Mosque shouldn't be where it is...

You have to love that kind of hypocrisy.
 

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Glad I don't fall into that camp and was merely expressing my revulsion. You know, freedom of speech and all that.
 

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Glad I don't fall into that camp and was merely expressing my revulsion. You know, freedom of speech and all that.

I believe that the 'conventional wisdom' as expressed on this forum is that anyone (was it 100%, the figure that someone used?) who finds this disagreeable or suffers revulsion is actually just a racist bigot.

But hey, don't let me stop you from expressing yourself.
 

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Glad I don't fall into that camp and was merely expressing my revulsion. You know, freedom of speech and all that.
You would be the exception to the norm, but I will make note of the fact that you have been hammering pretty hard at those that find the placement of the Mosque distasteful.
 

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I wonder if those who compare that event with the building of the mosque ever stop to consider the "commonsense" (pls excuse the reference to a previous member) of the comparison....That was a one day event...over in a few hours.......The mosque will be there a long time non?
 

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I'm really stirred up right now just reading that. But it just so happens that it's stirring me in the funny direction.

[FONT=times new roman,times]With all due respect Mr. President, anyone with a modicum of intelligence who observed the 8/28 Rally this past Saturday in Washington DC would have to come to the same conclusions that not only I, but hundreds of thousands of Americans came to.

That Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor Rally" was an absolute marvel of the American spirit..


Wow.. someone sounds pretty stirred up.
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I'm biased on severall subjects and changed my bias at times but I'm amazed at people who claim to be righteous and unbiased and show That bias time after time.....
 

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Hey, if you take 'stir up' as an insult, then I guess you should feel insulted.

Yea. And the writer from that blog should also probably know that the phrase can be contextual and has multiple significance. Instead, he took the words out of context to frame the entire piece. If he displayed the entire quote instead of just taking that one sentence out, it would be clear that Obama wasn't insulting Beck at all.

Responsible journalism at its finest.
 
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Yea. And the writer from that blog should also probably know that the phrase can be contextual and has multiple significance. Instead, he took the word out of context to frame the entire piece. If he displayed the entire quote instead of just taking that one sentence out, it would be clear that Obama wasn't insulting Beck at all.

Responsible journalism at its finest.
Objectivity is dead, journalism was collateral damage....

Look at how anyone that has the least bit of a problem with the Mosque, is categorized as ignorant or bigoted.

Let's look at this telling contribution...

As far as taking sides regarding this proposed New York Islamic community center, you are with the religiously intolerant bigots or against them.
 

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Objectivity is dead, journalism was collateral damage....

Look at how anyone that has the least bit of a problem with the Mosque, is categorized as ignorant or bigoted.

Let's look at this telling contribution...

Yea, maybe he shouldn't have called you that. It wasn't too kind. I'm pretty sure one could make the exact same point about the issue, and you don't have to be a bigot for it to be true. Maybe if you ask nicely he'll retract calling you that.
 

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Yea, maybe he shouldn't have called you that. It wasn't too kind. Maybe if you ask nicely he'll retract calling you a bigot.
LOL. Have you missed all the wars between eao and I?

I don't care what eao thinks of me. I like the fact that he says what he says. That way I don't have to work to hard to find the real ideology under a facade. He puts it all out there, thinking he's smart enough to have hidden it well.

The more he hates me, the more I know I have him pegged perfectly.

Besides that, I've called him worse. The worse part is, I actually started a thread and proved it too.