Because We NEED More Lawyers!

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It's certainly true that the legal profession in all its glory is well deserving of massive criticism. I agree with most of the criticism, and I think that major reform is long overdue.

At the same time, I would note that the species has thus far come up with two ways to resolve disputes over who is entitled to what. Lawyers, judges, mediators, arbitrators, &c. is one way.

The other way is gunmen.

Your choice.
I'll go with the 'straight shooters'.

If it got corrupt from the inside then the cure isn't going to come from there.
 

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Only 57 percent of 2013 law school graduates obtained full-time legal jobs nine months after graduation.



That number is much too generous and, in all likelihood, the real number is considerably lower. Small wonder why so many students filed a lawsuit a few years ago against those phony law schools and their pricey but largely worthless degrees. Too bad the courts threw out those claims even though they had considerable merit.
 

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Maybe there could be. Please note that I said that the species has come up with two ways. I did not exclude the possibility of more ways.

If you've got one, I would, no sh*t, be fascinated to hear it. And debate it, and point out flaws. And those flaws would not make it bad or useless, for as you have pointed out and I agree completely, the systems we have are rife with flaws.
No need for that. You've obviously got it all figured out and I salute ye for it.
 

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I imagine that law schools make money. Rich families, big bucks. So you can see the incentive for law schools to churn out as many as they can. I probably know half a dozen lawyers. Half of them practice law, the others either never got a job in law or quit soon after articling. The couple lawyers I know who never practiced law are pretty successful though. Not a bad degree to have heading out into the big bad world. And of course, if you're a lawyer, there's always politics. Although these days the people seem to prefer TV personalities for politicians (take a bow, Mike, Duffy, Pamela Wallin, Michaelle Jean and Adrienne Clarkson).
 

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I imagine that law schools make money. Rich families, big bucks. So you can see the incentive for law schools to churn out as many as they can. I probably know half a dozen lawyers.
They should take a hint from the doctors. The American Medical Assocation controls the number of seats in medical schools. The ABA does no such thing.

The boom's over, though. Now it's all about coding.
 

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They should take a hint from the doctors. The American Medical Assocation controls the number of seats in medical schools. The ABA does no such thing.

Perhaps for good reason. In Canada, it is similar, but we subsidize our public education system to a greater degree, probably. I don't know what it takes to train a physician, but I bet half a mil isn't far off. Physicians are trained, not educated. Theya re trained to be doctors. Lawyers, on the other hand, have a plethora of options available to them other than practicing law, and I don't imagine the taxpayer invenstment in their education is as great.

What I would support is ABA accreditation of schools though, to ensure that the school itself is maintaing a program capable of graduating competent lawyers. Do they have anything like that?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Perhaps for good reason. In Canada, it is similar, but we subsidize our public education system to a greater degree, probably. I don't know what it takes to train a physician, but I bet half a mil isn't far off. Physicians are trained, not educated. Theya re trained to be doctors. Lawyers, on the other hand, have a plethora of options available to them other than practicing law, and I don't imagine the taxpayer invenstment in their education is as great.

What I would support is ABA accreditation of schools though, to ensure that the school itself is maintaing a program capable of graduating competent lawyers. Do they have anything like that?
Yep. The ABA accredits law schools, and most states require a law degree from an ABA-accredited school for a person to sit for the bar exam and be licensed.

California is the notable exception.