Barbarians wants to destroyed lebanon

[Paco]

No mention at all that Lebanon has been a Syrian puppet state and a safe haven for terrorists since I started to crawl.

When the cowards stop hiding behind skirts and children then you can call Israelis barbarians.

No coward chickecn bastard, is guys like you, those guys are crazy desperate peoples, period.

Crazy desperate peoples... would be most Arabs. Terrorism is an outcome of fanatical desperation.

The Arab peoples have not advanced since the 7th century. Saudi Arabia with all its money and western bought technology and weapons (because they are not smart enough to build themselves), would lose a fight against western women armed only with handguns.

 

[Nuggler]

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Leb, Aeon is a moron. Pay no attention to him.

Truer words ain't never been spoke DurkaDurka:

Idiot seems a likely term.

The fact that there are probably thousands like (him?) do give cause for pause however.

Sheesh

:!:

 

[Freethinker]

If any idiot can spam the board endlessy with his hate crap, why isn't there some kind of idiot filter.

I mean Aeons mental ilness is getting in the way of me reading message from other posters. I already know what he is going to say as the obsessive compulsive hatred is easy to predict, so I don't want to view it anymore.

I want a button I can push and poof I never see Aeon again...

 

[EastSideScotian]

RE: Barbarians wants to d

So now Jews, are Barbarians......?
Good to know my ancestors and relitives are Barbarians. Interesting how you take the side of Charic, he is a moron, you want to argue about poor government all the time and Canadian Conservites being whroes and blah blah blah....Charic is one of the worst Conservitive leaders int he world ever.......you truley know nothing

 

[tamarin]

What amazes me about the whole mess continues to be the fact that Hezbollah is acting as if it's a country. Here on Lebanese soil, this group (with representation in the government of Lebanon) has made decisions that have affected the stability and safety of the country that hosts them. It's a group of fanatics that has endangered a whole region because it doesn't seem to find any britches that fit anymore. Lebanon has to crack down and enforce its unquestioned sovereignty.

 

[EastSideScotian]

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What amazes me about the whole mess continues to be the fact that Hezbollah is acting as if it's a country. Here on Lebanese soil, this group (with representation in the government of Lebanon) has made decisions that have affected the stability and safety of the country that hosts them. It's a group of fanatics that has endangered a whole region because it doesn't seem to find any britches that fit anymore. Lebanon has to crack down and enforce its unquestioned sovereignty.

Agreed, Actully right before I read this post I was whatching the News, and apperantly The Lebanese Government is consdering sending its army to the south to take control away from Hezbollah. That might cause a civil war me thinks.

 

[Nikki]

What continues to suprise me about the Israeli conflict is that all these countries are telling Isrel to back off blah blah ( which btw, IMO, is bullshit) and they shouldn't be doing this and that when in reality Isrel really isn't fighting as hard as they could. I mean they have a hudge army one of the best in the world. Israel could just roll over and crush these guys anytime they want. I don't know why these countries keep on screwing with them. :roll:

 

[thomaska]

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What a lovely thought, Aeon!

You are slipping over the edge............Israel was ATTACKED without provocation from Lebanon, what the hell would you expect them to do?

And people keep forgetting............both Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian Authority are integral ELECTED parts of the government, so when they attack Israel, it is something the NATION is responsible for.

Not only that, both Hamas and Hezbollah are largely funded and directed from IRAN.........now led by a psycho only slightly less crazy than that guy in North Korea.........and hot for the complete destruction of Israel.

Iran imprisons and tortures to death not just Israelis, but Canadians as well............

Perhaps it is time Aeon et al figured out ISRAEL is our friend and ally, our fellow-traveller on the road of freedom and democracy...........the government of Iran, the PLO, Hezbollah, Hamas are stuck in the 9th century, are institutions of repression and murder, and the world would be a much better place if they were utterly destroyed.

Pull your head out of your ass, Aeon.

Israel wasnt attacked idiot, 2 soldier were kidnaped, period, that is not an attack, hamas are financilly supported by your great friend, saudi arabia, so stop playing chicken-ppropaganada card, that you like to play, iran finance hezbollah, get real on your fact, chicken bastard.

Wow. Aeon officially qualifies as the most worthless human being I have ever encountered. I know this person probably posts most of his worthless sewage for the shock effect, but he's gone beyond the pale now. I think the rest of of us should make his screen name an internet verb/noun/adjective now. Ex:

"I need to take a dump, and then wipe my Aeon"

I, myself will never address the Aeon in the first person again. It is silly to address a single celled lifeform like himself in the same manner as I address humans.

 

[Lineman]

"That might cause a civil war me thinks."

I agree, but if Lebanon wants to be able to get out from under the thumb of Syria and Iran, the supporters and financiers of Hezbollah, it has little choice but to take their country back by force. Independence has never been won through inaction. Lebanon will need help from other nations and initially a large part may be military support. It may be time for The EU to stop its usual yapping and step forward.

 

[Freethinker]

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I agree, but if Lebanon wants to be able to get out from under the thumb of Syria and Iran, the supporters and financiers of Hezbollah, it has little choice but to take their country back by force. Independence has never been won through inaction. Lebanon will need help from other nations and initially a large part may be military support. It may be time for The EU to stop its usual yapping and step forward.

I do a lot of reading about the Middle East everytime a crisis breaks out. There is precedence for this, PLO was based in Jordan for a while and they essentially tried to execute a Coup. Assasination attempt on the King etc.

Jordan had enough and went to war to expell the PLO. Fighting (google "black september") killed 5000 in 10 days.

But since then Jordan has been peacefull. The PLO went on to cause trouble in Lebanon, including the massacre at Damour.

These militants do the most harm to the country they reside in. It would be interesting to see Syrias reaction if Hezbollah was expelled and started moving into Syria. Fine and dandy to support them while they ruin Lebanon, but they don't actually want them launch attacks from Syrian territory.

I suspect the Syrian/Iranian puppet master will have Hezbollah quit all attacks if there is any sign that they might be expelled. They don't care about damage to Lebanon, but they do care that they don't get stuck housing the monster they created.

 

[Mogz]

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I'd just like to chuck in my 18 cents on this issue. While aeon wants to live in his dream World, the rest of us fully realize that Lebanon blatantly attacked Israel. Ther is no quota on damage done, or soldiers kidnapped that define when something is an attack. One bullet fired by one Nation towards another is an act of agression. Crossing a border and abducting two soldiers IS an act of War. Palestine, Lebanon, any Nation that thinks it smart to poke Israel with a stick is the master of its own misfortune. As i've said all along, I feel no sympathy for Nations who incur the wrath of a bigger, stronger, and not to mention BETER Nation. If they'd just left Israel alone none of this would have happened. In the mean time I say bomb away Israel, you're entitled to it.

 

[Kreskin]

Then you must realize the US blatantly attacked Iraq with State sponsored aggression. Does this justify insurgent retaliation as well? The logic is one in the same, and is it any wonder this bullcrap will just continue to grow.

 

[wallyj]

Not only were 2 Israeli soldiers captured,8 were killed. All on Israeli soil. That is an act of war. Don't strike at someone and then complain when they hit back harder.

 

[SaintLucifer]

Re: RE: Barbarians wants to destroyed lebanon

What a lovely thought, Aeon!

You are slipping over the edge............Israel was ATTACKED without provocation from Lebanon, what the hell would you expect them to do?

And people keep forgetting............both Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian Authority are integral ELECTED parts of the government, so when they attack Israel, it is something the NATION is responsible for.

Not only that, both Hamas and Hezbollah are largely funded and directed from IRAN.........now led by a psycho only slightly less crazy than that guy in North Korea.........and hot for the complete destruction of Israel.

Iran imprisons and tortures to death not just Israelis, but Canadians as well............

Perhaps it is time Aeon et al figured out ISRAEL is our friend and ally, our fellow-traveller on the road of freedom and democracy...........the government of Iran, the PLO, Hezbollah, Hamas are stuck in the 9th century, are institutions of repression and murder, and the world would be a much better place if they were utterly destroyed.

Pull your head out of your ass, Aeon.

Israel wasnt attacked idiot, 2 soldier were kidnaped, period, that is not an attack, hamas are financilly supported by your great friend, saudi arabia, so stop playing chicken-ppropaganada card, that you like to play, iran finance hezbollah, get real on your fact, chicken bastard.

Wait. Kidnapping 2 soldiers who serve to defend a sovereign state is not an attack? Then what is it?

 

[SaintLucifer]

Re: RE: Barbarians wants to destroyed lebanon

I agree, but if Lebanon wants to be able to get out from under the thumb of Syria and Iran, the supporters and financiers of Hezbollah, it has little choice but to take their country back by force. Independence has never been won through inaction. Lebanon will need help from other nations and initially a large part may be military support. It may be time for The EU to stop its usual yapping and step forward.

I do a lot of reading about the Middle East everytime a crisis breaks out. There is precedence for this, PLO was based in Jordan for a while and they essentially tried to execute a Coup. Assasination attempt on the King etc.

Jordan had enough and went to war to expell the PLO. Fighting (google "black september") killed 5000 in 10 days.

But since then Jordan has been peacefull. The PLO went on to cause trouble in Lebanon, including the massacre at Damour.

These militants do the most harm to the country they reside in. It would be interesting to see Syrias reaction if Hezbollah was expelled and started moving into Syria. Fine and dandy to support them while they ruin Lebanon, but they don't actually want them launch attacks from Syrian territory.

I suspect the Syrian/Iranian puppet master will have Hezbollah quit all attacks if there is any sign that they might be expelled. They don't care about damage to Lebanon, but they do care that they don't get stuck housing the monster they created.

Why do you think Syria is supporting Hezbollah? It is a simpler way to keep them out of their own country. Syria's pipedream is that Hezbollah succeeds and the land is returned to the Palestinians. Syria does not give a shit about the members of Hezbollah as long as the assholes stay out of their country. They do not want such rabble in their own country. Who would?

 

[BitWhys]

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Not only were 2 Israeli soldiers captured,8 were killed. All on Israeli soil. That is an act of war. Don't strike at someone and then complain when they hit back harder.

so let me get this straight. when Americans capture terrorists who are not part of a nation-state force they are "enemy combatants" and protection under the rules of war is not forthcoming since it IS NOT a war, but when Israellis are attacked by terrorists who are not part of a nation-state force it IS an act of war and Israel can respond as such.

damn

this whole international relations thing really is so nuanced.

 

[Mogz]

A few things:

The Arab peoples have not advanced since the 7th century.

Exactly the stance i've maintained all along. Pay attention aeon, someone else that thinks like I do.

Then you must realize the US blatantly attacked Iraq with State sponsored aggression. Does this justify insurgent retaliation as well? The logic is one in the same, and is it any wonder this bullcrap will just continue to grow.

If you knew my stances, you'd know that I do not support the War in Iraq. While I won't go as far as to say I outright condem it (aspects have been good in my opinion), I don't think the United States should be there. Then again i'm somewhat conflicted as they've set up a Government and promised to support it. If they leave now all chaos will reign. A difficult situation.

Now with regard to militants aka insurgents. I do not support them. They play the hardline islamic stance, but all they care about is running the Country for themselves. Yes, the United States invaded Iraq, but what do you achieve by killing your own people? You cannot tell me that blowing up a car bomb in a crowded market full of their own Countryment is justified or for that matter conducive to resolving the conflict. Is it?

so let me get this straight. when Americans capture terrorists who are not part of a nation-state force they are "enemy combatants" and protection under the rules of war is not forthcoming since it IS NOT a war, but when Israellis are attacked by terrorists who are not part of a nation-state force it IS an act of war and Israel can respond as such.

damn

this whole international relations thing really is so nuanced.

They're actually deemed "unlawful combatants" and they are protected under the rules of the Geneva Convetion, they're just not subject to the same liberties as a POW, another nuance of the Geneva Convetion, kind of a Catch 22 if you will. The Germans treated Russian partisans the exact same way during the Second World War. They were not uniformed, carried no official military documentation, and as such were deemed unlawful. Therefore they were placed in prison camps, but not covered by the full rights of a POW. The thing to realize when looking at the Middle East is that while yes, the militants of Hezbollah are not "officially" tied in to the Government of Lebanon, they are allowed to exist and conduct attacks with impunity by said Government. Ergo the actions of Hezbollah directly affect the Lebanese Government as they allow such actions to take place.

 

[BitWhys]

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They're actually deemed "unlawful combatants" ...

no shit.

k

tell Ashcroft

 

[Freethinker]

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. The thing to realize when looking at the Middle East is that while yes, the militants of Hezbollah are not "officially" tied in to the Government of Lebanon, they are allowed to exist and conduct attacks with impunity by said Government. Ergo the actions of Hezbollah directly affect the Lebanese Government as they allow such actions to take place.

Especially when you consider that Hezbollah has 20+ members in the governing coalition including cabinet positions. This is simply hypocrisy and nothing more. Arafat was the one who started this scheme. Oh I don't really control the military wing of my party... Yeah right.

So if Israel renames the IDF as the Kadima military wing (KMW), they can claim the government has no control over them. KMW can nuke the middle east and claim. Oh those nasty militants that are not officially part of the government. What are you gonna do?

 

[BitWhys]

hmm

so I gather from the responses its important that Lebanon DOES have control over Hezbollah militants in order to justify Israel's actions.

I was wondering. Thanks.