Australia now seeking approval from U.S. to sell Canada used jets

[Murphy]

Something is better than nothing. Since we already have the necessary equipment to maintain and arm the Oz F-18s, this should work nicely. I just hope that the airframes aren't full of cracks. :lol:
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Australia now seeking approval from U.S. to sell Canada used jets
- David Pugliese, Ottawa Citizen

Canada’s purchase of used Australian fighter jets is winding its way through the official process.

Pat Finn, the Department of National Defence’s assistant deputy minister of materiel, says the Canadian government has received what’s called a letter of cost proposal on the proposed sale of 18 used F-18s by Australia.

“The Australians have now gone to the U.S. State Department for the transfer under ITAR,” Finn explained to MPs on the Commons defence committee earlier this month. “That is under way.”

Approval is needed because the F-18s were built in the U.S. with American technology. Finn indicated the DND wants to have the deal in place by the end of this year. “The idea of firming this up in the fall of 2018 was for the start of delivery of the two first aircraft to be next summer, and then quickly beyond it,” he added.

The Liberal government originally planned for the arrival of the first used aircraft in January 2019.

The Canadian government has not released the actual cost of the used aircraft. It has set aside $500 million for the planes, weapons, parts and other related equipment.

Australia now seeking approval from U.S. to sell Canada used jets | Ottawa Citizen

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ah, it's nice to see the client states playing well with each other.

 

[Murphy]

In this case, we needed something. We lost about 20 jets, and only bought 138. We lost 10 or 11 pilots as well.

This contract is for 18, so they won't replace the losses, but anything is better than nothing.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Ah, it's nice to see the client states playing well with each other.

SU-35s would be a better buy but the dealer is too picky about who they'll sell them to.

 

[Murphy]

:roll:

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[Curious Cdn]

:roll:

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[Murphy]

I'm detecting that you're sulking. If you want to play with the Russians, move to Moscow.

 

[Curious Cdn]

I'm detecting that you're sulking. If you want to play with the Russians, move to Moscow.

No, I would like to see our pilots on something resembling a level playing field, if they ever meet the Russians.

 

[Murphy]

We can't afford it.

 

[Hoid]

SU-35s would be a better buy but the dealer is too picky about who they'll sell them to.

Are we building those now?

 

[pgs]

No, I would like to see our pilots on something resembling a level playing field, if they ever meet the Russians.

Keep voting Liberal .

 

[Curious Cdn]

Keep voting Liberal .

I have never voted Liberal in my entire life. Keep voting Libertarian and hole yourself up in a cave, somewhere.

 

[Murphy]

I will have to check with Pugilese about the approval times. ITAR being what it is, everything should be cleared in short order.

 

[10larry]

How many Gs have these kites pulled, replace the popped rivets but what damage lingers, how many hard landings? Buying used junk saves a few bucks for libs to squander elsewhere and will keep the crap we bought from the brits company. If they prove as airworthy as our subs proved seaworthy they'll see little air time, we are truly the globes dumping ground, got military junk give ottawa a call.
A few SU-35s stationed in cold lake would serve us well and I'd think putin would give us a good deal plus a reduced service contract.

 

[Murphy]

I don't know. I am hoping that the CF asked the right questions, checked the maintenance and flying records, and personally checked each plane.

 

[Danbones]

Well these planes are slightly better then used rockets...

but only slightly.

 

[justlooking]

I don't know. I am hoping that the CF asked the right questions, checked the maintenance and flying records, and personally checked each plane.

That actually made me laugh.

 

[Murphy]

I was lucky enough to work with people who were in procurements when I was in the service. As long as they had one fighter pilot and one senior technician on the purchasing team, then things will be good. Of course, we'll never know that. All that means is the acceptance process will be longer, as the maintenance guys will be busy.

The savings by canceling the 18 Super Hornets and buying the Oz F-18s was 5.5 billion dollars. That assumes the planes are in good shape and do not require a major overhaul. Buying used is always a gamble.

Canada gave U.S. just hours notice it would not buy Super Hornets
By Tim Naumetz.

The Canadian government gave the U.S. only a few hours notice before it announced last December it would abandon a $6-billion acquisition of 18 Boeing Super Hornet fighter jets, iPolitics has learned.

On Dec. 12, the government revealed at a National Press Theatre briefing it would instead buy 18 vintage Boeing F-18s from the Australian government for roughly $500 million.

It was the day Ottawa also launched a long-term plan to begin a competition leading to the acquisition of 88 modern fighter jets to replace Canada’s aging and diminishing fleet of CF-18 fighters.

https://ipolitics.ca/2018/03/04/canada-gave-u-s-just-hours-notice-not-buy-super-hornets/