Attack on Woodburning Stoves, time to fight back

[bill barilko]

I have yet to read how all the geniuses here are going to resurrect wood burning-because they aren't and they're starting to gain an inkling that they never will.

One or two might google 'wood pellets' but all those big words will overwhelm them.

 

[MHz]

The homeless already are using an improved 'mini-stove'. When the ice-storms take out the power for the winter people will be burning furniture just to get through it. An air-tight will take a week to burn a couch, an open fire will do it in 1 night.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Very few people here use wood for heat.

Oh boy, not this again?

Wood burning is the main alternative in many parts of the maritime provinces where oil heat is the only option. Many people in British Columbia's interior use wood chip stoves.

Not everyone lives on the BC coast.

 

[Curious Cdn]

I lived in the Ottawa Valley for a time where wood heating is common, maybe predominant. We certainly used it.

 

[gopher]

I burned wood for heat when I lived in the Midwest. What a pain in the azz. Not only did I have to split wood after work, that dry heat made me itch like a damn monkey. Get central heat and air if you can and you neighborhood will be less hazy and you won't have to sleep next to a humidifier anymore.

Here in Gopherland the state frowns on wood heating because of the fear of transporting wood ticks or other bugs when taking wood into your neighborhood. Evidently those bugs carry germs which can cause tree diseases or damage crops. While there is no blanket prohibition of wood burning, they recommend that you buy artificial firelogs or other stuff commercially.

 

[Ludlow]

Here in Gopherland the state frowns on wood heating because of the fear of transporting wood ticks or other bugs when taking wood into your neighborhood. Evidently those bugs carry germs which can cause tree diseases or damage crops. While there is no blanket prohibition of wood burning, they recommend that you buy artificial firelogs or other stuff commercially.

Those fire logs burn too hot.

 

[gopher]

Those fire logs burn too hot.

I often wonder if the fumes coming from things created in test tubes are really all that safe.

Besides, how many millions of trees have been lost in forest fires both in the USA and Canada? Why not allow people to cut their own trees, transport them home, and let them plant seeds so that new trees can grow?


Here if you use your boat, by law you must hose down the boat to keep algae and other forms of fungus from spreading. Why not compel people to do the same with fire wood? Hose it down and the bugs won't get spread. At least I would think not.

 

[JLM]

I have yet to read how all the geniuses here are going to resurrect wood burning-because they aren't and they're starting to gain an inkling that they never will.

One or two might google 'wood pellets' but all those big words will overwhelm them.

Wood burning should actually be encouraged. If all that wood that was laying on the ground around Fort Mac was burnt in wood stoves, Fort Mac wouldn't be in the state it is today.

 

[bill barilko]

Besides, how many millions of trees have been lost in forest fires both in the USA and Canada? Why not allow people to cut their own trees, transport them home, and let them plant seeds so that new trees can grow?
Here if you use your boat, by law you must hose down the boat to keep algae and other forms of fungus from spreading. Why not compel people to do the same with fire wood? Hose it down and the bugs won't get spread. At least I would think not.

Congratulations on making the stupidest post in this thread.

Wood burning should actually be encouraged. If all that wood that was laying on the ground around Fort Mac was burnt in wood stoves, Fort Mac wouldn't be in the state it is today.

And in second place we have another winner-no chicken dinner though.

 

[JLM]

And in second place we have another winner-no chicken dinner though.

So you are in favour of one ...........leaving it on the ground to rot and be of little value or two................. leaving it on the ground to dry out and become an immense fire hazard. And where do these ideas place you in the intelligence spectrum? Dumber than a grade 5 student?

 

[bill barilko]

So you are in favour of one ...........leaving it on the ground to rot and be of little value

What value?

What is value?

or two................. leaving it on the ground to dry out and become an immense fire hazard.

The idea that a citizen's corps is going to sweep up all the dead wood on the forest floor is beyond laughable.

 

[JLM]

The idea that a citizen's corps is going to sweep up all the dead wood on the forest floor is beyond laughable.

Just the areas where it is most detrimental! Are you slow?

What value?

What is value?

https://www.google.ca/#q=value

 

[bill barilko]

Just the areas where it is most detrimental! Are you slow?

So are you going to recruit volunteers in the pool halls, beer parlours, and old age homes across the country to protect us all from this impinging threat?

Are you going to sell the so called 'valuable' waste wood from the forest floor to offset expenses?

If you are organised and half as smart as you think you are maybe you'll get a medal!

Maybe the Order of Canada!

Pigs might fly too.

They might'.

 

[lone wolf]

And they might name themselves for a dead hockey player and get miserable on something other than coffee and doughnuts too

 

[JLM]

So are you going to recruit volunteers in the pool halls, beer parlours, and old age homes across the country to protect us all from this impinging threat?

Are you going to sell the so called 'valuable' waste wood from the forest floor to offset expenses?

If you are organised and half as smart as you think you are maybe you'll get a medal!

Maybe the Order of Canada!

Pigs might fly too.

They might'.

Yep, it takes a little sagacity and a whole lot of planning for sure. Like maybe start out slow and do one acre.

 

[gopher]

So you are in favour of one ...........leaving it on the ground to rot and be of little value or two................. leaving it on the ground to dry out and become an immense fire hazard. And where do these ideas place you in the intelligence spectrum? Dumber than a grade 5 student?

for sure

 

[bill barilko]

for sure

Yet another genius.

 

[JLM]

Yet another genius.

Maybe the wisest on the forum!

 

[talloola]

I believe they have now realized that leaving the forest floor alone to regenerate itself, and also help
wildlife survive, as they need much of the leftovers, they have found that totally cleaning out around
the newly planted seedlings is not helpful at all, and I notice here in the mountains where all the
new trees are growing in many places, it is around the leftovers on the ground. the forests did just
fine for thousands of years before we decided they didn't know how to look after themselves, and began
making the forest floor look like it has been stripped of everything, now they know better. also
around the creeks, they are leaving fallen trees and most of the underbrush, except where it would
prevent the flow of the water, as they now know it is much healthier for the forest.

I enjoyed having a woodstove in areas where we had lots of room, but where houses are close together
it can be a big problem. we have a nice neat natural gas stove in our family room so clean, so
efficient, and I understand everyone can't get natural gas, but I'm glad we can, I also cook with
it now as well, love it.

we use to drive up the mountain, cut up our own firewood from downed leftover parts of trees that were
laying on the ground, but had to get a permit, and had to go in only certain areas where they allowed
cutting, not very many people did the same, some did it and sold the wood, then the leftover piles
would be burned by the companies, after permits ran out. most people are not interested, or don't have
the truck and equipment to go into the forest and do wood cutting, most people it seems, want to do what is easy, and what they can afford.

 

[JLM]

I believe they have now realized that leaving the forest floor alone to regenerate itself, and also help
wildlife survive, as they need much of the leftovers, they have found that totally cleaning out around
the newly planted seedlings is not helpful at all, and I notice here in the mountains where all the
new trees are growing in many places, it is around the leftovers on the ground. the forests did just
fine for thousands of years before we decided they didn't know how to look after themselves, and began
making the forest floor look like it has been stripped of everything, now they know better.

Yep, there is a "method to the madness" of leaving debris on the ground as it does fertilize future growth, but the problem now is we often add houses and subdivisions into the equation. Over the long term in the forest, fires are beneficial but if we want both forests and houses we have to thin and clear the interfaces or we'll be having more instances like Fort Mac, Slave Lake and Kelowna.