At least two dead, two others wounded in shooting at San Bernardino elementary school
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I didn't realize that NB was an open-carry province, where everyone is allowed to carry handguns around. When did they change that?
I don't understand your point. California is not an open-carry state. As gun-control states go, it's one of the stronger ones.
Or are you saying that only handguns kill people?
So how is this the fault of a gun? A's best I can tell no gub has ever pointed itself at a person and pulled the trigger. And how are Canada's archaic gun laws working at keeping drug dealers from using automatic hand guns against each other?
You do realize he was being sarcastic, right? In the Western world Canada ranks #3 in personal firearm ownership. In the US it's been estimated that there are 9 privately owned firearms for every 10 people. In Canada, depending on whose numbers you use, it's estimated there are anywhere from 5 to 6.6 privately owned firearms for every 10 people.
That's right, avoid the sweeping generalization of your statement about Americans.
What exactly is your point? It appears to be that you are indifferent to gun homicides in the U.S. Is that correct?
A society that is founded on the belief that everyone should be allowed to carry a handgun can hardly be surprised when people get angry and use them.
That's the type of society that Americans want. It's one of their fundamental beliefs.
That's the type of society that Americans want. It's one of their fundamental beliefs.
He might have, but they might at least have had a chance to get away. Outrunning a bullet is difficult. And the fact the murderer might still have tried to kill his wife is irrelevant, especially given the fact that he appears to have accidentally killed an innocent child.
Canada is way ahead of the US so we must be doing something right, just as the US is doing something wrong.
That's strange. I've seen nothing from you in this thread that in any way shows you are interested in serious discussion. Your response became instantly emotional as soon as someone pointed out that guns might be a problem. In the interests of serious discussion, perhaps you might want to respond to this.
Gun Violence Archive
That's hogwash, there is much debate about firearms and gun control in the US. You just choose to generalize.
I am actually among the few who thinks that assault weapons, even semi-automatic, have no place in the public. I have handled all sorts of weapons in my military career, but I believe that such weaponry should be restricted to the military or law enforcement.
But this guy could have just as easily run that woman down with his car and taken out a kid or two along the way. We can't possibly know the outcome if he had not had a gun. I don't see the relevance of the gun control argument here.
We have had many multiple murders here in Canada by firearm, even with our gun laws.
Talking domestic violence that would be more relevant than trying to hang the gun control argument on this.
Not with somebody who insists that the only way to reduce gun violence is to get rid of guns, and when asked how, responds with a handful of measures most of which some or all U.S. states have already taken, generally decades ago (and none of which would get rid of guns anyhow).
I think you have identified part of the the problem. If criminals, the mentally unstable, and others can simply drive from one state with strong gun legislation to one that has very weak guns laws, then the entire system is weakened. Canada's gun laws apply coast to coast just as they do in most nations with gun control laws. It doesn't really matter if Illinois has strict gun control if all a potential buyer has to do if drive to Indiana.
OK, so you missed the part about "you cannot buy a handgun in a state where you are not a resident, and have not been able to do so since 1968."
The U.S.'s gun laws are a mix of Federal, state, and local.
And hey, looky here! So are Canada's!
Restricted Firearms - Royal Canadian Mounted Police
So, let's sum up. In a two-sentence post, you lied about Canadian gun laws in the first sentence, and you lied about U.S. gun laws in the second sentence.
OK, OK, maybe I'm a bit too harsh here, saying "lied." Let me back down and just say you made up false facts to support your argument. Either way, we're done here, because as James Madison said. . .
"To argue with someone who has abandoned the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
The "use and authority of reason" includes supporting one's arguments with real facts, not whatever crap one makes up for the purpose of supporting her argument.
I'd be happy to discuss this, or any other subject, with you whenever you decide that making shit up will not be your go-to tactic.
We have had many multiple murders here in Canada by firearm, even with our gun laws.
He have, have we?
There have been a few.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Canada
This "long list" goes all the way back to the Lachine Massacre of 1689. It's about as long as a month or two worth of multiple murders down in the Exited States.
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BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA! The ultimate CanCon argument: two people going at it over undefined, deliberately vague terms!
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Few!
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FEW!
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FEW, you scumbag motherf*cking child-molesting fascist!
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What could be better?