Are there ANY benefits to big gov't?

BitWhys

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So when is big government justifiable and when is it big enough that there is very little need for it to have concern for its actions?

I can't answer that because you're asking for a rule of thumb regarding matters that can only be properly dealt with on a case-by-case basis. To attempt to apply a general rule without reference to circumstance is not only in itself prone to error but undermines the democratic process.
 

BitWhys

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How about something specific like do you think Canada's federal gov't is big enough or not?

To answer that in reference to something as complex as an entire nation as if its worthy of such a simplistic question is little more than an exercise in reductio ad absurdum.
 
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Dexter Sinister

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The single benefit of big government is that it's inefficient, clumsy, and slow. That's a benefit because... well, imagine what life would be like if an organization with that much power was efficient, agile, and fast. Nobody's liberty or property would be safe.
 

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To answer that in reference to something as complex as an entire nation as if its worthy of such a simplistic question is little more than an exercise in reductio ad absurdum.
Hmmm. Other people seem to be able to come up with an opinion.
Oh, I see. You can't answer a question. You can only dodge or nitpick with juvenile and derisive comments. Why not just quit posting here and butt out?
 

L Gilbert

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This ignore thingy is cool:

 

BitWhys

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wow

That looks exactly like the typical libertarian's grasp on reality.:laughing7:
 

MikeyDB

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Big government is wonderful...

Just ask those who benefited from the Liberal "sponsorship program"....you can hide anything inside a big government...

Take a look through Canadian and American history...the larger the government the more corrupt it is...
Surely this is good for everyone.....?
 

BitWhys

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Canada's first big scandal surfaced in 1873, well before the feds even began collecting income tax. The whole thing could have been avoided, of course, by not building the railway at all. That would have been interesting.

The stuff of corruption is not the existence of government per se, but power. When someone finds a way to actually dissipate power itself in the public arena instead of just pretending to and calling it minarchism or libertarianism or whatever, I'll be willing to revisit it as an option. Until then, I'm more interested in the way matters prevail in the real world.
 

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Canada's first big scandal surfaced in 1873, well before the feds even began collecting income tax. The whole thing could have been avoided, of course, by not building the railway at all. That would have been interesting.
Another one would have popped up.

The stuff of corruption is not the existence of government per se, but power. When someone finds a way to actually dissipate power itself in the public arena instead of just pretending to and calling it minarchism or libertarianism or whatever, I'll be willing to revisit it as an option. Until then, I'm more interested in the way matters prevail in the real world.
Missed the point. The point was that corruption is easier to hide in big gov't. You wouldn't know minarchism from Stalinism in the real world.
 

BitWhys

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??? Don't like being put on ignore, huh?
Um, so who's a libertarian?

Actually I was looking forward to it. Realizing who I was dealing with, though, I figured I'd better try enjoy it while it lasted.

see?

ask a half decent question and I'll answer sometimes, even if it does deviate from the thread topic.
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