Arctic Sea Ice Melting Three Times Faster Than Projected

Walter

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I think one of the largest issues here is the speed in which things appear to be happening. The science behind the concept of global warming as influenced by humans is very sound. It makes sense. We are all experiencing the effects. And is all happening very fast.
I wish it would happen faster here. We've had a very cold April and May is still cool here in Ontario.
 

#juan

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There is no doubt that the sea ice is retreating. There is also no doubt that that retreat is quickening. Recently there has been news that Polar Bears have been drowning because they can't reach their food on the sea ice. Polar bears have been hunting seal on the sea ice for about seventy thousand years. When is there enough evidence?

 

Walter

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There is no doubt that the sea ice is retreating. There is also no doubt that that retreat is quickening. Recently there has been news that Polar Bears have been drowning because they can't reach their food on the sea ice. Polar bears have been hunting seal on the sea ice for about seventy thousand years.
When Greenland was green enough for farming 1000 years ago, where did the Polar Bears do their hunting since there would have obviously been warmer temperatures than now to permit farming on Greenland? Did they die out and then reappear? Did they hibernate for a few hundred years?
 

#juan

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When Greenland was green enough for farming 1000 years ago, where did the Polar Bears do their hunting since there would have obviously been warmer temperatures than now to permit farming on Greenland? Did they die out and then reappear? Did they hibernate for a few hundred years?

The answer is simple. You are wrong. The Greenland ice sheet has been there for a hundred thousand years.
 

Tonington

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Actually the Greenland Ice shelf is thousands of years old, and the vast majority of the land under the ice is permafrost. Whonamed the Island Greenland? Erik the Red, I'll bet he wasn't "red". He was also in exile, and what would you name an island if you wanted to attract followers, Frozen chunk of Ice Island?

Just thought I'd add to the original post, that IPCC acknowledged their models had underscored the ice retreat, the reason being they use many global models, which will be more conservative in the estimates than a regional model like this study.
 

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Just thought I'd add to the original post, that IPCC acknowledged their models had underscored the ice retreat, the reason being they use many global models, which will be more conservative in the estimates than a regional model like this study.

I agree that long term climate change is a problem, and I have no doubt that it is partly due to human activity.

That said, I always chuckle when the IPCC acknowledges their models gave incorrect results, but oddly enough, it's always that things are worse than they predicted.....in other words, they're often wrong, but only by underestimating. The old credibility score takes a hit.
 

#juan

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And for general information, the Greenland ice sheet, that still covers most of Greenland, in 2006, contained 2.85 million cubic kilometers of ice.