Apple travesty is a reminder why Britain must leave the lawless EU

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Europe's Competition Directorate commands the shock troops of the EU power structure. Ensconced in its fortress at Place Madou, it can dispatch swat teams on corporate dawn raids across Europe without a search warrant.

It operates outside the normal judicial control that we take for granted in a developed democracy. The US Justice Department could never dream of acting in such a fashion.

Known as 'DG Comp', it acts as judge, jury, and executioner, and can in effect impose fines large enough to constitute criminal sanctions, but without the due process protection of criminal law. It misused evidence so badly in pursuit of the US chipmaker Intel that the company alleged a violation of human rights.

Apple is just the latest of the great US digital companies to face this Star Chamber...

Apple travesty is a reminder why Britain must leave the lawless EU




Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
31 August 2016
The Telegraph


Margrethe Vestager, the EU competition chief, exercises powers that would not be tolerated in a democracy

Europe's Competition Directorate commands the shock troops of the EU power structure. Ensconced in its fortress at Place Madou, it can dispatch swat teams on corporate dawn raids across Europe without a search warrant.

It operates outside the normal judicial control that we take for granted in a developed democracy. The US Justice Department could never dream of acting in such a fashion.

Known as 'DG Comp', it acts as judge, jury, and executioner, and can in effect impose fines large enough to constitute criminal sanctions, but without the due process protection of criminal law. It misused evidence so badly in pursuit of the US chipmaker Intel that the company alleged a violation of human rights.

Apple is just the latest of the great US digital companies to face this Star Chamber. It has vowed to appeal the monster €13bn fine handed down from Brussels this week for violation of EU state aid rules, but the only recourse is the European Court of Justice. This is usually a forlorn ritual. The ECJ is a political body, the enforcer of the EU's teleological doctrines. It ratifies executive power.

We can mostly agree that Apple, Google, Starbucks, and others have gamed the international system, finding legal loopholes to whittle down their tax liabilities and enrich shareholders at the expense of society. It is such moral conduct that has driven wealth inequality to alarming levels, and provoked a potent backlash against globalisation.

But the 'Double Irish' or the 'Dutch Sandwich' and other such tax avoidance schemes are being phased out systematically by the G20 and by a series of tightening rules from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). The global machinery of "profit shifting" will face a new regime by 2018.

We can agree too that Apple's cosy EU arrangements should never have been permitted. It paid the standard 12.5pc corporate tax on its Irish earnings - and is the country biggest taxpayers - but the Commission alleges that its effective rate of tax on broader earnings in 2014 was 0.005pc, achieved by shuffling profits into a special 'stateless company' with its headquarters in Ireland.

"The profits did not have any factual or economic justification. The “head office” had no employees, no premises and no real activities," said Margrethe Vestager, the EU competition chief.

This may be true but that does not empower the Commission to act arbitrarily, retroactively, and beyond the rule of law. What is really going on - as often in EU affairs - is a complex political attack on multiple fronts. It is a reminder of why Britain must remove itself entirely and forever from the clutches of this Caesaropapist construction.

Apple's chief executive, Tim Cook, has a €13bn axe to grind, but he is almost certainly right in arguing that Mrs Vestager is making up state aid rules as she goes along, and has yet to produce evidence that Dublin granted Apple a sweetheart deal on taxes. "This claim has no basis in fact or in law," he said.


Place Madou in Brussels, home to the EU's shock troops


"The Commission’s move is unprecedented and it has serious, wide-reaching implications. It is effectively proposing to replace Irish tax laws. This would strike a devastating blow to the sovereignty of EU member states over their own tax matters, and to the principle of certainty of law in Europe," he said.

Ireland is now in the odd position of being told that it must claw back €13bn of back taxes from Apple even though it categorically rejects the legal arguments of Mrs Vestager.

"They're overreaching their competence. The European treaties say the individual states are responsible for taxation policy. This is an approach through the back door to try and influence tax policy through competition law," said Ireland's finance minister, Michael Noonan.

The EU authorities are trying to subvert the sovereign prerogative of the elected Dail to determine Irish tax and fiscal policies, and some are clearly hoping to shut down Ireland's special low tax model and end its role as an off-shore aircraft carrier for US companies.

"We have to see this for what it is - a highly politically-motivated targeting of a small member state along with a clear bias against US multinationals," said Fine Gael MP, Michael Hayes.

Washington is outraged. The US Treasury Jacob Lew warned Brussels earlier this year that it was seeking "to impose penalties retroactively based on a new and expansive interpretation of state aid rules,” and that it appeared to be "targeting US companies disproportionately".

Last week the US Treasury accused Mrs Vestager of "chilling" Transatlantic ties in a blistering report on the EU's campaign of state aid probes. It said Brussels was deviating from established case law and had "collapsed the concepts of 'advantage' and 'selectivity'. The report came within a whisker of alleging outright chicanery, deception, and lies.

US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew has accused the EU of picking on US companies and breaching legal doctrines


Needless to say, there is Treasury money at stake. American companies are allowed to deduct their payments to foreign tax authorities, so such fines cut US tax revenue dollar for dollar. "That outcome is deeply troubling, as it would effectively constitute a transfer of revenue to the EU from the US government and its taxpayers,” said the report.

Washington has invited the problem by failing to reform the US corporate tax system. The US rate is badly out of line with the rest of the world at 35pc - and higher under some effective rates - and this is compounded by the effects of its world-wide tax code.

"American companies feel squeezed by the new rules coming and that is why they do these complex tax deals in Europe. If the US tax rate came down to the low 20s, they wouldn't bother any more," said one official.

"Obama didn't grapple with this issue because it is a can of worms, but it is a can that has to be opened," he said.

Behind the shadow boxing is a strong suspicion that powerful forces in the EU are trying to use state aid probes to break the global dominance of America's technology giants, vainly hoping to nurture its own 'Silicon Valley' behind a digital wall. Amazon, Facebook, Google, as well as Apple, are all under fire, and Microsoft has fought an epic battle.

The view in Washington is that Mrs Vestager's probe of the Russian gas giant Gazprom is being conducted with kid gloves, and that she is strangely accommodating over the Nord Stream pipeline so favoured by Germany. It is almost as if some in Brussels view America as the real enemy.

The US has in the past played down the episodic outbursts of anti-Americanism, but patience is wearing thin and the strategic calculus is shifting. Donald Trump has already warned that he is willing to "walk away" from NATO altogether.

Others question ever more loudly exactly why the US should continue to guarantee the EU's eastern border against Vladimir Putin's Russia if Brussels is behaving in such an unfriendly fashion - and without the American security blanket a disarmed Europe is almost completely defenceless. The EU needs to watch its step.

Apple travesty is a reminder why Britain must leave the lawless EU
 

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Something like the US deciding your aspirin factory is a chemical weapons factory and then they bombs it out of existence
when it really was only an aspirin factory

that's OK though....
 

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The EU has long been an anti-American organisation that aims to rival the US, yet many Americans, can't see that. That's why so many Brexiteers were baffled when US politicians like Obama told Britain to stay in the EU. Americans should not be supporting an anti-American construct like the EU.

It wouldn't surprise that, when Trump becomes President, he just ends the US defence of the EU. The EU can't keep indulging in anti-American policies and then expect the US to defend it from Russia (although it is the EU and its expansionist, imperialist policies which are responsible for the mess in Ukraine in the first place).
 

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Something like the US deciding your aspirin factory is a chemical weapons factory and then they bombs it out of existence
when it really was only an aspirin factory

that's OK though....
A Clinton was in charge during the ASA attack so it's OK.
 

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The EU has long been an anti-American organisation that aims to rival the US, yet many Americans, can't see that. That's why so many Brexiteers were baffled when US politicians like Obama told Britain to stay in the EU. Americans should not be supporting an anti-American construct like the EU.
BHO is an a-hole.
 

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The EU was built up on Communist principles. At this point, it's almost safe to say that the West LOST the Cold War.
 

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The EU was built up on Communist principles. At this point, it's almost safe to say that the West LOST the Cold War.

The west certainly didn't learn anything from the cold war. They continue to implement ever more socialist policy that they cannot pay for and eventually the EU, US and Canada will bankrupt themselves and collapse just like the USSR did.
 

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The EU was built up on Communist principles. At this point, it's almost safe to say that the West LOST the Cold War.
What principles are those?

The reason I ask is that I've actually read Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto, as well as many of the writings of Lenin, Mao & Company. I don't see much of their philosophy in the EU.
 

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The EU government does remind me somewhat of the proletariat. Gathering power and huge salaries and imposing their will on member states while Europe slowly disintegrates under a mountain of debt. Very reminiscent of the USSR.
 

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The EU government does remind me somewhat of the proletariat.
The proletariat isn't the government. The proletariat is the workers. Maybe you were thinking the Politburo?

Either way, I think that tells us all we need to know about your level of knowledge about the principles of communism.
 

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The proletariat isn't the government. The proletariat is the workers. Maybe you were thinking the Politburo?

Either way, I think that tells us all we need to know about your level of knowledge about the principles of communism.

My mistake. It's early and I just woke up. Another 10 minutes and a cup of coffee I should be alright.
 

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Business times: "Attack on Apple test of EU-US relations"

Washington Post: "How the E.U.’s ruling on Apple explains why Brexit happened"

Bloomberg: "EU's attack on Apple boon for UK post Brexit"

Financial Times: "EU Apple Tax shows wisdom of Brexit"

Wall Street Journal: "Brexit makes UK more attractive to multinationals after EU take a bite out of Apple"
 

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The west certainly didn't learn anything from the cold war. They continue to implement ever more socialist policy that they cannot pay for and eventually the EU, US and Canada will bankrupt themselves and collapse just like the USSR did.
Socialism gathers all the nuts in one central basket, which is the banker plan to "collect em all"
without paying for any of it...the tax payer does that for them
You just rent a couple politicians, and beaurocraps...they come cheep
 

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Last week, the European Commission slapped Apple with a $14.5 billion bill for back taxes. Apple CEO Tim Cook said that Apple had worked out a deal with the Republic of Ireland. He even got the U.S. Treasury to complain on his behalf. But, Alan Freeman writes (link is external), no one should shed any tears for Apple:


Under the arrangement, all Apple sales outside North and South America are channeled through subsidiaries based in Ireland, where the corporate tax rate is a bargain 12.5 per cent. The U.S. corporate tax rate is 35 per cent. One estimate says that 90 per cent of Apple’s foreign profits are moved through Ireland.

So Apple has been able to shift billions of dollars of sales and profits to Cork in Ireland, rather than pay taxes in the countries where their products are actually sold.

Apple wasn’t satisfied with paying 12.5 per cent, though, so it cooked up a deal with the Irish government which has allowed it to avoid virtually all corporate taxes. According to the Commission, Apple paid just 1 per cent of its European profits in taxes in 2003 and an infinitesimal 0.005 per cent in 2014.

For the last thirty-five years, that's how the game has been played:

Apple, like all corporations, aims to make as much money as it can, and pay as little in tax as it can get away with. The company’s executives may dress casually, it may sponsor hip advertising and fabulous design, but it’s fundamentally no different than the railway and steel monopolists of a century ago. If only they would admit it.

What’s infuriating about Apple and Tim Cook is their habit of insisting that they’re playing on a higher moral ground. “When you’re accused of doing something that is so foreign to your values, it brings out an outrage in you, and that’s how we feel,” Cook said this week. “Apple has always been about doing the right thing. We haven’t done anything wrong and the Irish government hasn’t done anything wrong.”

Now, we’ve all been told by accountants and lawyers that tax avoidance is legal while tax evasion isn’t — but what Apple and its ilk are doing is taking advantage of every possible loophole and extracting every concession they can from governments to make sure they pay as little as possible in taxes. Is that “doing the right thing”?

As of June, Apple was sitting on $215 billion in cash and assets outside the U.S., where the money can remain tax-free indefinitely as long as it’s not brought home. Cook says he would love to return at least some of this money to the United States — but he doesn’t want to pay the 35 per cent tax rate. “I don’t think that would be a reasonable thing to do,” says Cook.

So, just was is reasonable?
 

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That's the thing: big American corporations like Apple and Google and Starbucks just aren't paying enough taxes. Many politicians and public in Britain want these giants to pay more taxes here.

But, having said that, the EU's approach to it is wrong. Look at the unelected EU Commission President Juncker. He's come out in support of the EU's stance on Apple saying it is "based on facts" yet, as PM of Luxembourg, he created a tax haven for companies such as Amazon by offering sweetheart deals to slash their tax.

It's no wonder that the British have voted to be free of such a corrupt and hypocritical organisation.
 

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Pay more taxes or get out, eh?

Are you sure that it works in your favour with an entity like Apple?