Anybody like really different Russian aircraft...

[bobnoorduyn]

There seems to be a fair distance as well as a dihedral angle between the wings that might be hard to cross with a drive shaft. Without a connecting drive shaft a complete loss of power on one side would be a disaster.

Btw, is the airplane in your avatar a Norseman?

I would imagine that like any helicopter, the loss of power would require immediate and deliberate action to initiate autorotation without a substantial reduction of rotor RPM. Without a common drive system this helicopter should be still controllable with a total loss of power on one side provided power is immediately reduced on the other. Of course a power loss at low altitude or in a hover requires a lot of skill to make a landing successful, I'll bet even more so for this helicopter.

And BTW, yes it is, built in 1943 I believe, and now apparently sitting on a pedestal in Thompson MB.

 

[#juan]

I haven't seen a Norseman in years.

Did you notice the Russian built B-29 and a couple spin-offs. I haven't seen the Bear and the B-29 side by side but I suspect that they are related. I was in the RCAF in the late fifties and early sixties and in Europe we used to intercept Bears all the time and they are still using them.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

I haven't seen a Norseman in years

Number juan; Heh heh ( I get it), anyway neither have I. I tried to buy that airplane while it was in pieces after an accident, the owner hemmed and hawed but didn't sell. He fixed it because he wanted to fly it, he never did, I flew it for the next two years, BTW that is me leaning out the door back when I had hair, and it wasn't even white yet. Apparently it was wrecked again and restored to at least a condition where it could be displayed.

I noticed the B-29, but I thought it was a B-29. I also noticed a Dak in the backgound of another photo.

The Bear is quite impressive for a turboprop, I understand it has a speed of M.82, I don't know if that is MMO or it's cruise speed. That's close to or better than many commercial jet transports. 8O And faster than I've ever gone, or ever will :sad10:

 

[hermanntrude]

do u live in thompson, bob? I know a couple who live up there... one of them is a pilot

 

[#juan]

I haven't seen a Norseman in years

Number juan; Heh heh ( I get it), anyway neither have I. I tried to buy that airplane while it was in pieces after an accident, the owner hemmed and hawed but didn't sell. He fixed it because he wanted to fly it, he never did, I flew it for the next two years, BTW that is me leaning out the door back when I had hair, and it wasn't even white yet. Apparently it was wrecked again and restored to at least a condition where it could be displayed.

I noticed the B-29, but I thought it was a B-29. I also noticed a Dak in the backgound of another photo.

The Bear is quite impressive for a turboprop, I understand it has a speed of M.82, I don't know if that is MMO or it's cruise speed. That's close to or better than many commercial jet transports. 8O And faster than I've ever gone, or ever will :sad10:

Back in the fifties there was a Norseman operating out of Fraser Lake.(northern B.C.) That is the only one I've ever seen.

I will assume the Dak is a Dak. I wouldn't think they would reverse engineer an aircraft built in the thirties.:lol:

 

[bobnoorduyn]

do u live in thompson, bob? I know a couple who live up there... one of them is a pilot

No I don't, I've been there more times than I can count but never ventured off the airport property.

 

[#juan]

The Bear is quite impressive for a turboprop, I understand it has a speed of M.82, I don't know if that is MMO or it's cruise speed. That's close to or better than many commercial jet transports. 8O And faster than I've ever gone, or ever will :sad10:

Yeah that is well over 600mph at sea level. A 747 might be marginally faster.

Did you fly in the Air Force?

 

[Trex]

Cool thread,

Love that weird Soviet stuff.

Slightly off topic but hey,

I flew a lot with old ex -Afghanistan, ex- Soviet pilots,
Mi6, Mi8, Mi10's I think.
Doors open, windows open, crap blowing all over, big rubber bladder full of jetB
sloshing around on the floor.

Pilots and engineers in no shirts, shorts and flip flops.

Seriously rugged guys.
Couldn't give a hoot about anything.

Excellent pilots in my opinion.

Be a mistake to tangle with them,
but again just my opinion.

Trex

 

[#juan]

This is an interesting aircraft. The Yak38 "Forger". It is a VTOL airplane like the Harrier. Note the massive undercarriage. Looks almost like they expected a few hard landings. It has three engines. A further indication of the aircraft's age is the tiny little radar dome on the nose. Today it would be the largest diameter of the nose......To better see your opponents before they see you.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Yeah that is well over 600mph at sea level. A 747 might be marginally faster.

Did you fly in the Air Force?

Nope, tried to but didn't have the education and recruiting standards at the time were strict. Although if offered a mercenary jet job, I would certainly consider it. All my experience is civilian, and my fastest jet was M.78.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Juan; I noticed the F-86 on your profile; did you fly that? Now that is cool. I've worked with Sabre and Voodoo pilots, (and F-18 guys, they're different), they all have stories.

 

[#juan]

Juan; I noticed the F-86 on your profile; did you fly that? Now that is cool. I've worked with Sabre and Voodoo pilots, (and F-18 guys, they're different), they all have stories.

Yeah, I flew Sabres about a hundred years ago. I left the air force just as the Voodoos and F-104s were being introduced. I Would love to have flown the F-104.

Here is a link to a little more info on the Sabre:

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p86_22.html