Anti-Vale graffiti scribbled on rock cuts

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This is getting ridiculous. My dad has been threatened, more than once......

And roughly a week ago local 6500 got one of there younger members to call my little brother who is trying to make a living at his electrical company. The kid kept calling and calling verbally attacking my brother. He said **** like we got 3000 members who know who you are we are strong.

When i answered the next time he called, i said

"come on over and bring your 3000 boyfriends and ill spank you in front of them"
"hes like what do you mean"
"i said you keep calling here like you want something well come over and make some substance of your comments, either **** off or come on over with your back up"

He stopped calling

Now there throwing up graffiti, what a bunch of whine babies.

Sudbury Local News - Anti-Vale graffiti scribbled on rock cuts

Graffiti bearing slogans such as “Vale go home,” “scab 4 a day, scab 4 life,” and even the names of Vale employees have started appearing on rock cuts along public roadways throughout Greater Sudbury.

Vale spokesperson Steve Ball said the graffiti, located in Copper Cliff, Levack, Azilda, and along Big Nickel Mine Road, is “mostly anti-company.” He said he has “no idea who is doing it.”

“From our perspective, it's certainly a shame, given the sensitive nature of negotiations,” he said.

“There's also the fact that these actions are defacing our city. This is a city that people are coming to on holiday during the summer months. We probably have more visitors now than at other times of the year.”

Steelworkers Local 6500 president John Fera could not immediately be reached for comment on the matter.
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If there are any Local 6500 members here, id like to say that you guys are the worse kind of people in the city of sudbury. Its people like you who make great cash and do next to **** all that gives our city a very ****ty profile.

And dont tell me the majority of you guys work hard, ask the kids in the mining engineering techinician and technologists programs they cant wait for the easy life.

Work contracts like real men:canada:
 
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i hope vale smashes the **** out of them..... Honestly i was all about the canadian worker getting what he wants from foreign nationals, but **** these clowns....

I love my family and i respect other peoples families. But if you cant respect mine, im going to not give two ****s about yours.

**** IM REALLY MAD NOW.

who the **** do these people think they are
 
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I think Vale is about ready to close shop in Sudbury. This is their fourth name change since any environment or pension contracts were signed. It wouldn't surprise me to find out most of the pension data burned with the Steelworkers hall. Sudbury ores are high in sulphur content and expensive to process. Right now, it's being salted with Voiceys Bar ores - if Sudbury's are even coming up from the hole. Most of what is actually being produced is gold, platinum and palladium. Nickel prices aren't there. Then, there are the ads that promised that Inco (Vale now) wanted to reduce its footprint on Sudbury's environment. The strike might be a perfect cover.
 
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I am not a fan of modern unions. most union workers I see use the union as an excuse to be a slack ass, rather than as a protection of their lives and health as they were originally intended. That being said... taking a scab job comes with an awareness of what you're getting yourself into. My sympathy for either side is slim.
 
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karrie said:
I am not a fan of modern unions. most union workers I see use the union as an excuse to be a slack ass, rather than as a protection of their lives and health as they were originally intended. That being said... taking a scab job comes with an awareness of what you're getting yourself into. My sympathy for either side is slim.
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karrie my brother works contracts he either takes them or eats pie. If you were in his position and you had bills to pay youd cross the picket line...

His company works for vale not local 6500....
 
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Johnnny said:
karrie my brother works contracts he either takes them or eats pie. If you were in his position and you had bills to pay youd cross the picket line...

His company works for vale not local 6500....
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yeah, i would totally cross a picket line. Never said I wouldn't. What I'm saying is I'd man up and not whine about the result.
 
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karrie said:
I am not a fan of modern unions. most union workers I see use the union as an excuse to be a slack ass, rather than as a protection of their lives and health as they were originally intended. That being said... taking a scab job comes with an awareness of what you're getting yourself into. My sympathy for either side is slim.
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My son-in-law is one of those deemed as a scab by the Union gang. There was no problem when he was contracted by Inco/Vale to keep rocks from falling on miners' heads - until the Union went on strike. He's not in their Union ... and my grandkids have to eat. Also, mine ceilings have to be maintained....
 
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My son-in-law is one of those deemed as a scab by the Union gang. There was no problem when he was contracted by Inco to keep rocks from falling on miners' heads - until the Union went on strike. He's not in their Union ... and my grandkids have to eat. Also, mine ceilings have to be maintained....
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working alongside a union until they decide to strike shouldn't make you a 'scab' imo.
 
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In about 2 years, when the Hydromet facility is started up in Newfoundland, I think Sudbury will have a rude wake up call.

Vale is an international company, and they have no love for 6500. Just look at the strike up in Voisey's Bay.
 
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It would be an honour for me to have my name added to a scab list. But alas, I'm not unionized and can't imagine ever having the honour of crossing a picket line of any company I have involvements with.

Oh well, I can only dream. Unless there's some honorary scab list I could get my name added to?
 
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If mining is the good life why do miners die young? Is there a job more dangerous?

Miners should make double what they do now.

If you are against someone being paid fairly and want heads cracked then you are a fascist or a sociopath.

A sociopath can be cured with medication and cognative skills training but the only cure for fascism is 2.09 grams of lead @ 1320 meters per second.
 
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petros said:
If mining is the good life why do miners die young? Is there a job more dangerous?

Miners should make double what they do now.

If you are against someone being paid fairly and want heads cracked then you are a fascist or a sociopath.

A sociopath can be cured with medication and cognative skills training but the only cure for fascism is 2.09 grams of lead @ 1320 meters per second.
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Who are you referring to? Personally, I'd all be for laws such as:

Co-determination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This would help to put workers and management on a more equal playing field. I could also support something similar to:

Profit sharing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So I'm certainly for ensuring equity in the workplace and would certainly support laws moving in the direction of legislation promoting more unity and cooperation between labour and management. I do not support confrontational approaches as exemplified by labour union action.

Perhap this is where we draw the distinction between a corporatist and a socialist. I fall firmly into the corporatist camp. And before you jump on the corporation-bashing bandwagon, look up corporatism, and you'll see that it's an economic model that has nothing to do with just pandering to multinational corporations. And if you look up social corporatism, you'll see that even some on the moderate left support corporatism too. Even Sweden, that model of socialism, is really more of a corporatist than socialist corporate model.
 
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Canadian mines are already very safe and there are very very very very very very very very few deaths from mining in sudbury over the last few years if any

This has more to do with the dumb union mindset than anything else

the union thinks they can push anyone around but thats not the case anymore

the union thinks it can hold my city hostage
 
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