Annamie Paul wins Green Party leadership

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No. But that riding has voted Lieberal since the dawn of time. Nobody but a Lieberal will win it likely ever.

Ontario Liberal, that's a fact.. accept where I grew up.. Cornwall is about the only blue blip in all of Ontario..

Well until this last election.. people grew a brain.
 

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Ontario Liberal, that's a fact.. accept where I grew up.. Cornwall is about the only blue blip in all of Ontario..

Well until this last election.. people grew a brain.
Horse shit.....most everywhere outside of the GTA is conservative. OK...those NDPers up north are an exception...lol

 

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Horse shit.....most everywhere outside of the GTA is conservative. OK...those NDPers up north are an exception...lol



There is a band of 905ers that federally do vote Conservative. But most of the ridings in Ontario last election when Lieberal. If it was as blue as this map, Sheer would be PM.
 

B00Mer

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Horse shit.....most everywhere outside of the GTA is conservative. OK...those NDPers up north are an exception...lol

Did you read or comprehend what I said.. until this last election they grew a brain and voted Conservative..

But back in the day, Cornwall, where I grew up was a papermill town and very conservative..

FFS do you have to be such an argumentative tool.

 
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Ontario Liberal, that's a fact.. accept where I grew up.. Cornwall is about the only blue blip in all of Ontario..
Well until this last election.. people grew a brain.
Oxford County, where men are men and women like it that way, has always been blue. Also Simcoe County and many others.
 

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I live in Grey county.....always conservative......Your map shows liberal. Where did you get that, from the Libs webpage?
 

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I live in Grey county.....always conservative......Your map shows liberal. Where did you get that, from the Libs webpage?

As I said.. "Back in the day" when I was a kid, Cornwall was basically a Conservative city sounded by Liberals..

Back in the day is about 30 years ago..

I was raised in a very Catholic paper mill town, that loved it's Hockey team.. well we had the Cornwall Royals with greats suchs as Doug Gilmour who lived 2 doors down on Monaco Cres., and our movie stars Ryan Gosling (We went to the same school)

The city was anchored with Domtar and CIL. Then Free Trade came in and all those great manufacturing jobs left the country.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gilmodo01.html




 
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Green party rift over Israeli-Palestinian conflict grows as MPs break from leader
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New Green party leader Annamie Paul smiles as she speaks at the party leadership announcement in Ottawa, Oct. 3, 2020.
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OTTAWA — The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has exposed a fault line in the Green party, threatening political unity as lawmakers break from their leader and rank-and-file members clash with party staff.

The dust-up kicked off after Green MP Jenica Atwin said in a Twitter post May 11 that a statement from Leader Annamie Paul, which called for de-escalation and a return to dialogue, was “totally inadequate” and that Atwin stands with Palestine in demanding an end to “apartheid.”


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Three days later, Paul’s senior adviser Noah Zatzman expressed solidarity with “Zionists” in a Facebook post that accused some Green MPs of antisemitism and discrimination, sparking a backlash.

The internal rift has only widened in the week and a half since a tenuous ceasefire was reached in the 11-day war that killed more than 250 people, mostly Palestinians.


The fallout includes online accusations from prominent Green party members, such as 2020 leadership runner-up Dimitri Lascaris, who says Zatzman has defamed him, Atwin and Green MP Paul Manly in accusing them of antisemitism for calling out what they deem Israeli apartheid.

Paul has attempted to remain above the fray, saying that party debate is healthy but that increasing reports of antisemitism in Canada must be confronted.
 

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Fallout from Greens' feud continues as party opts not to renew top adviser's contract
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New Green party leader Annamie Paul smiles as she speaks at the party leadership announcement in Ottawa, Oct. 3, 2020.
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OTTAWA — The fallout from internal feuds in the Green party continues amid accusations of intolerance and strong-arm tactics against some members.

Two Green party sources, who spoke to The Canadian Press on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters, confirmed that the executive committee voted Friday not to renew the contract of a senior adviser to Leader Annamie Paul when it expires next month.

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The adviser, Noah Zatzman, had expressed solidarity with Israel in a May 14 social media post that accused many politicians, including unspecified Green MPs, of discrimination and antisemitism, sparking a letter-writing campaign calling for his removal.

Separately, two party executives recently announced they would step down early, including John Kidder, a vice-president on the party’s governing body and husband to MP and former leader Elizabeth May.

The resignations open up more space for a slate of new candidates for executive positions in a party that has undergone growing pains and power struggles over the past couple years.

Zatzman, who declined to comment, has worked with Paul since last July and remains on board as an adviser to the leader.

His six-month contract, slated to expire on July 4 and obtained by The Canadian Press, stipulates that the party will pay Zatzman a fee for time worked beyond 100 hours per month.

Fresh fissures opened after Green MP Jenica Atwin directly challenged Paul’s position on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The tweet followed one a day earlier by Green MP Paul Manly, who said the planned removal of Palestinian families from the East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Sheikh Jarrah “is ethnic cleansing.”

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Zatzman responded with a Facebook post stating that Greens “will work to defeat you and bring in progressive climate champions who are antifa and pro LGBT and pro indigenous sovereignty and Zionists!!!!!”

Atwin has previously declined requests for comment, while Manly rejected the notion that policy criticism amounts to cultural hostility.


On Saturday, the Greens’ Quebec wing released a statement saying that as long Zatzman remained in place and declined to apologize, it would be “difficult … to fully collaborate with Ms. Paul and her staff.”

“The GPC (Green Party of Canada) leaders’ silence and inaction for the past three weeks now has shocked Party members and supporters from coast to coast and called into question her ability to lead the Green party,” the Quebec chapter’s board stated.

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As of Tuesday, there were about 1,400 signatories to a letter to Paul demanding Zatzman be removed from his post.

The Green party did not respond Tuesday to requests for comment. At a press conference earlier in the day, Paul declined to answer a question on her party’s shifting executive roster, saying the event was intended to discuss the recent attack against a Muslim-Canadian family in London, Ont.

“There are differences of opinion that come up naturally within parties. And certainly, Israel and Palestine is one that has demonstrated the differences of opinion,” she told reporters last week in response to questions about whether there is antisemitism in her party.
 

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Green party executive launches membership review of its own leader, Annamie Paul
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OTTAWA — Green party executives have taken a first step toward suspending Annamie Paul’s membership in the party she leads, the latest development in a feud that has threatened her future in the top job.

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Dana Taylor, interim executive director of the Greens’ main governing body, has kicked off a membership review that would suspend Paul’s status and bar her from representing the party while it is underway, say three senior party sources. The Canadian Press granted the them anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about internal matters publicly.


The process, as outlined in the members’ code of conduct, could ultimately result inPaul’s party membership being revoked altogether, freezing her ability to lead a political party she would no longer belong to, ahead of a likely federal election this year.

The review emerged from a special meeting of the federal council Tuesday night, where Taylor announced the probe would go forward. Paul, who sits on the 13-member body, was not invited to the virtual meeting, the sources say.

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They say the stated reason for the review is that Paul launched legal proceedings against the party, an accusation disputed by officials close to the leader. The code of conduct says legal action against the Green Party of Canada by one of its members automatically triggers a review headed by the executive director.


All three sources say the legal proceeding referred to in the membership review concerns a cease-and-desist letter sent from Paul’s legal counsel to a federal council member or members. The details of the letter and whether it constitutes a legal action against the party — and is thus grounds for a review — remain unclear.

Taylor and party spokeswoman Rosie Emery both declined to comment, while Paul was not immediately available on Wednesday.

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The membership review follows a months-long battle between party factions, in part over clashing views about how the party and its leader should respond to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Paul, who has led the party for nine months, faces a non-confidence vote by federal council on July 20 in a process distinct from the membership review. The non-confidence proposal requires three-quarters support in order to proceed to a party-wide vote the following month at a general meeting, where grassroots could render judgment on Paul’s leadership.

Separately, the party brass has recently moved to withhold funding from Paul’s campaign to win a downtown Toronto seat and temporarily laid off about half of the Green party’s employees last week, including all staff in the leader’s office.

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All this has happened while the party recovers from New Brunswick MP Jenica Atwin crossing the floor to the Liberals last month, leaving the Greens with two seats in the House of Commons.

Last month, Paul fired back against party executives in response to an earlier move to push her out, calling them out for “racist” and “sexist” accusations that were included in a letter obtained by The Canadian Press. She is the first Black woman to lead a federal political party in Canada.

Green party membership can be revoked by a bare majority of council members present at a meeting following a review, the code of conduct says. The rules state that Paul, as a member of the federal council, would not be allowed to take part in any deliberations.

Membership rights are suspended until the matter is settled. A member is allowed 30 days to prepare their defence in front of party brass after being informed of a review.

The council is in an election period at the moment, with much of the current body poised to turn over as of Aug. 20. That leaves just enough time for executives to vote on their leader’s status as a Green following her month-long defence period before they vacate their council seats.
 
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Never thought much about it but am now guessing because of the official party status the Greens receive funding from Ottawa to run their operations. Sad

Perfect timing for the implosion though. Should give the NDP a little breathing room.

Still say we need an alternative in the form of a western seperatist movement allied candidates. Time is now for that.
 

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Green party execs cancel non-confidence vote against leader Annamie Paul: Sources
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OTTAWA — Green party executives have called off a planned non-confidence vote this week that could have led to leader Annamie Paul’s ouster.

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Two senior party sources, who were granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, say the vote by the Greens’ federal council slated for Tuesday is cancelled or postponed indefinitely.

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The vote would have required backing from three-quarters of the 13-member governing body in order to proceed to a party-wide vote the following month at a general meeting, where an ultimate judgment on Paul’s leadership could have been rendered by the grassroots.

Members of the council had passed a motion late last month demanding that Paul hold a press conference with Green MP Paul Manly and repudiate comments from a top adviser to the leader.


The ultimatum came following a social media post from Noah Zatzman — the adviser, who has since stepped aside — calling out unspecified Green MPs for antisemitism after Green legislator Jenica Atwin warned about Israeli “apartheid” in a Twitter post.

The standoff culminated in Atwin defecting to the Liberals as internal strife continues to roil the party ahead of a likely election later this year.

It was not clear why the vote for this Tuesday was nixed.

Green spokeswoman Rosie Emery says the party has no comment, but that Paul will hold a press conference Monday morning.
 

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Green party confirms non-confidence vote against leader Annamie Paul cancelled
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OTTAWA — A planned non-confidence vote against leader Annamie Paul is off the table until at least the next general meeting of members, the Green party has confirmed.

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In a short statement posted to the party website Monday, the Greens said no further non-confidence motions against Paul will be proposed by the current federal council or before a party convention is held.


Sources told The Canadian Press on Sunday that the council — the party’s main governing body — had called off the imminent threat to Paul’s leadership, but the terms of the decision remained unclear.

The change appears to keep Paul insulated from an ouster until a likely federal election in the coming months, as the party council will turn over on Aug. 20 and no general meeting is on the immediate horizon.

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The move also helps cement the prospect that a Black Canadian will lead a mainstream party into a national campaign for the first time in the country’s history.

Despite the retreat by party executives who have clashed openly with Paul, tensions remain as Greens struggle to pitch an agenda that has been overshadowed by months of internal strife.

Paul is slated to hold an afternoon news conference in Toronto Centre, the riding she hopes to win following two unsuccessful attempts that have kept her out of the House of Commons.

Party bigwigs have agreed to a ceasefire, but the temporary truce doesn’t mean scars have healed, said Daniel Beland, director of the McGill Institute for the Study of Canada.

“This is a wounded party,” he said Monday.

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An Angus Reid poll published Friday showed only three per cent of respondents intended to cast a ballot for the Greens.

The figure falls far short of the 6.55 per cent of the vote they garnered in the 2019 election, despite climate change and the environment now tying for the most important issue in voters’ minds, according to the poll.

“You see what’s happening in B.C. with the fires and what’s happening in Europe with the floods, and people tie that to climate change. So it would normally be a very good time to be the leader of the Green party, because the main issue that your party is about is really popular right now. But that’s not the case,” Beland said.

“Parties often have internal debates, but this exploded in public and on social media and the newspapers and so forth, and this has affected the image of Annamie Paul as the leader but also the image of the Green party,” Beland said.

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Other problems have hampered the Greens, including a halving of the payroll this month — despite Paul’s objections — due to financial imbalances reported by party brass. Green executives also moved to withhold funding from Paul’s campaign to win the Toronto Centre seat as Canada’s 44th federal election looms.

Paul came in second to Liberal Marci Ien in a byelection last fall — they earned about 33 per cent and 42 per cent of the vote respectively — to replace former finance minister Bill Morneau in the riding.

The Liberal stronghold has remained red since 1993 and hosted prominent MPs including Bill Graham and Bob Rae.

Paul came in fourth place when she ran there in the 2019 general election.

The party has been riven by infighting and factionalism for months as Paul, who was elected leader in October 2020, attempts to steer the Greens in a new direction.

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Federal council members passed a motion in June demanding that Paul hold a press conference with Green MP Paul Manly and repudiate comments from a top adviser to the leader.

Paul fired back against party executives on June 16, calling them out for “racist” and “sexist” accusations that were included in the written motion obtained by The Canadian Press.

On June 30, party president Liana Canton Cusmano told members at a virtual town hall that Paul has failed to live up to council’s ultimatum or to “meet her obligations as leader,” citing Green MP Jenica Atwin’s defection to the Liberals earlier in the month.

Council’s demands followed long-simmering feuds that boiled over after a social media post from Noah Zatzman — the Paul adviser, who has since stepped aside — that called out unspecified Green MPs for antisemitism.

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Atwin had warned about Israeli “apartheid” in a Twitter post on May 11, deeming Paul’s more traditional statement on violence in the region “completely inadequate.” The Fredericton MP cited the “distraction” of party turmoil over the Mideast crisis in May when she crossed the floor.

Atwin’s post has since been deleted, though she told CTV’s Question Period on June 13 that “I certainly stand by what I’m saying.” The next day, she adjusted her stance on Israel to align with the governing Liberal party she had just joined.

Paul called Atwin’s stated rationale for joining the Liberals a “completely manufactured reason,” and noted that the parliamentarian said the Green leader was not a key factor in her departure.
 

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BATTLE HEADS TO COURT: Green party execs end ceasefire with leader Annamie Paul
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OTTAWA — Court filings show the Green party is trying to overturn arbitration orders that stymied threats to Annamie Paul’s leadership, ending a brief ceasefire between warring factions.

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In a notice of application filed today in Ontario Superior Court,the party along withthe Green Party of Canada Fund say an arbitrator exceeded his authority in requiring party executives to cancel their non-confidence vote against Paul as well as a review of her party membership.


The documents state that Paul’s employment contract was with the Green fund, which controls the party purse strings, rather than with the federal council, the main governing body that was recently ordered to call off its move to depose the leader.

The filings argue the arbitrator therefore had no authority to impose orders on a council that is unconnected with Paul’s contract.

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Green president Liana Canton Cusmano sent an email obtained by The Canadian Press to party members today saying the party disputes a claim made by Paul about confidentiality rules.

Paul has said she and the Greens cannot speak publicly about why the non-confidence vote and membership review were put on hold until at least Aug. 21, when a general convention is scheduled.

The apparent end of an externally imposed truce barely three days ago casts doubt on Paul’s attempt at a news conference Monday to show her party has pushed past a tumultuous period ahead of a likely election this year.