And we were right.

[groovy]

We are here to make a better world.
No amount of rationalization or blaming can preempt the moment of choice each of us brings to our situation here on this planet.
The lesson of the 60's is that people who cared enough to do right could change history.
We didn't end racism but we ended legal segregation.
We ended the idea that you could send half-a-million soldiers around the world to fight a war that people do not support.
We ended the idea that women are second-class citizens.
We made the environment an issue that couldn't be avoided.
The big battles that we won cannot be reversed.
We were young, self-righteous, reckless, hypocritical, brave, silly, headstrong and scared half to death.
And we were right. ....Abbie Hoffman

 

[tamarin]

And Abbie Hoffman sold out. I'm a boomer, a child of the sixties and there's little left of the era one can be proud of. My only surefire redemption is that we were leagues better than what passes for youth today. We had a basic decency, easily tainted in the opportunistic scrabble youth always is, but we did care about things. Drugs and legions of freeloaders, goofs, upstarts and pretenders ended the golden era. It's all been downhill since.

 

[AmberEyes]

My only surefire redemption is that we were leagues better than what passes for youth today.

Well that makes me feel good about myself! I guess my generation is doomed for failure, better quit school while I still can, eh? Don't want to be a minority!

 

[tamarin]

Amber, there are exceptions. You're one of them. But the rabble...the rabble...Kurtz was right.

 

[darkbeaver]

Don't believe her AmberEyes.:wave:

 

[marygaspe]

And Abbie Hoffman sold out. I'm a boomer, a child of the sixties and there's little left of the era one can be proud of. My only surefire redemption is that we were leagues better than what passes for youth today. We had a basic decency, easily tainted in the opportunistic scrabble youth always is, but we did care about things. Drugs and legions of freeloaders, goofs, upstarts and pretenders ended the golden era. It's all been downhill since.

I agree with you in theory, but not in totality. Hoffman didn't sell out! Where did you get that idea?Jerry Rubin did! Hoffman was deeply involved in the ecological movement , and was an activitist for their causes.He died in 1989.

I don't think the majority of teens in the 60's were any better than the ones today. That was part of the myth. We were very naive in those days though, compared to the teens now. Most of us were still living in a 1950's mentality with 1960's styles. Odd time to be growing up!

 

[eh1eh]

We ended the idea that you could send half-a-million soldiers around the world to fight a war that people do not support.

If he only knew.

 

[marygaspe]

We ended the idea that you could send half-a-million soldiers around the world to fight a war that people do not support.

If he only knew.

Funny, that's what I was thinking!

 

[tamarin]

Oh, come on, Mary. Hoffman used the system to benefit himself as much as any other. His well paid confrontations with Rubin are the stuff of legend. His signature Steal This Book was less a tome for survival than a promotion for drug use, theft and bomb making. Nothing much of the peaceloving or idealistic there. Abbie liked to think of himself as one of the pig-haters. While he was busy at the trough himself.

 

[tamarin]

DB, why would you ever think tamarin had a gender? Look it up in the dictionary.

 

[csanopal]

Oh, come on, Mary. Hoffman used the system to benefit himself as much as any other. His well paid confrontations with Rubin are the stuff of legend. His signature Steal This Book was less a tome for survival than a promotion for drug use, theft and bomb making. Nothing much of the peaceloving or idealistic there. Abbie liked to think of himself as one of the pig-haters. While he was busy at the trough himself.

I'm surprised you would think this! Hoffman was one of the few counter-culture icons I respected. He worked tireleslly till his death for the causes he believed in, which is not something the other counter-culture icons could claim!

 

[eh1eh]

DB, why would you ever think tamarin had a gender? Look it up in the dictionary.

I think you may be right Dark, a boy would probablty not pick a cute fuzzy monkey for a nic.

 

[canadarocks]

Well that makes me feel good about myself! I guess my generation is doomed for failure, better quit school while I still can, eh? Don't want to be a minority!

Oh that's funny. You'll be fine. Don't let the old folks get you. they tried it on my generation in the 70's. Those 60's kids thought they were the collective second coming of Christ or something

 

[groovy]

Amber, there are exceptions. You're one of them. But the rabble...the rabble...Kurtz was right.

Sort of playing ego if you refer to a group of people for any reason as "rabble", isn't it? Maybe it wasn't Abbie that sold out, but you?

 

[sanctus]

Sort of playing ego if you refer to a group of people for any reason as "rabble", isn't it? Maybe it wasn't Abbie that sold out, but you?

Groovy, from your posts I get the idea you still are an old "hippie" at heart. Would this be accurate?