...and People Still defend the Tories?

[B00Mer]

OMG another Anti-Harper thread..

SOME people just need a sympathetic pat.......

ON THE HEAD...

WITH A HAMMER !!!

People like you are so dumb, you will turn us into the UK.

You vote for "Change" and you'll get it alright. Just not the kind you think.

What you will get is

- Higher Taxes
- Gun Bans
- More Islamic Immigrants
- More Welfare
- Just as much Warfare
- Quebec running the country again
- Shut down Oilsands
- Still Buy the F35's
- Still let Banks rape everyone

That's what you are voting for

Ignorant fool

 

[Cannuck]

OMG another Anti-Harper thread...

Ignorant fool

Who is this non-nonsensical post directed at?

 

[Palindrome]

Originally Posted by Cannuck

Government spending has increased under every Republican administration since (at the very least) WWII and in Canada, under every Conservative government since Diefenbaker.​

... And under every Democrat/Liberal gvt as well... This is what happens when the economy and population grows - spending increases as a result.

Indeed. So, what we need to compare is which segment of the population pays most of the tax, what government is spending on, how much of it goes back into the nation's economy and how much goes out of the country, into very private pockets.
Please note, i'm using lower case, not naming specific parties.
In my [admittedly unscientific] estimation, liberal governments tend to spend on infrastructure, social programs and services and enticing industry, while conservatives tend to spend on tax kick-backs, 'security', military and police hardware (expensive manure* to blow up - bought from .... well, not from OPSEU members.)

Neither is very good at looking after injured soldiers, because the conservative attitude is: "Citizens are fodder, to be deployed, used up and discarded.", while the liberal attitude is "We need an army, like to be proud of it, but don't want to think about it."

****really?

 

[Zipperfish]

People like you are so dumb, you will turn us into the UK.



Ignorant fool

You ain't no intellectual giant yourself there, buddy. :lol:

 

[Palindrome]

- Shut down Oilsands

That, all by itself, is reason enough!

 

[skookumchuck]

You ain't no intellectual giant yourself there, buddy. :lol:

Your inability to post without spelling errors does not make you look real smart either.

 

[B00Mer]

You ain't no intellectual giant yourself there, buddy. :lol:

WOW, no grammatical errors there? :lol: True sign of an intellect. ;-)

Who is this non-nonsensical post directed at?

I'm going to paint a broad brush and say anyone who would vote for Justine Trudeau.

Frig Cannuck, just move to the UK, you won't have to wait 4 years for an election.. may I suggest a guided tour close to a military base, just don't lose your head.

 

[Cannuck]

Frig Cannuck, just move to the UK, you won't have to wait 4 years for an election.

Why would I want to live in a shathole like the UK?

 

[B00Mer]

Why would I want to live in a shathole like the UK?

Because you're supporting a leader (Justin Trudeau) that wants to turn Canada in the mirror image of the UK.. Including I might add allowing sharia law.

Look, Harper has his faults and is not perfect.. no leader is.. however, Harper has been on the forefront on protecting Canadian sovereignty and Canadian culture.

Many countries want to challenge Canada's northern borders, because of oil and gas.. Harper sent more troops to our North.

When Obama said no to Keystone, Harper pushed forward with closer ties to China in trade of Canada resources..

Harper bolsters Canadian sovereignty.

Our resources is what makes the Canadian economy what it is today..

 

[lone wolf]

Because you're supporting a leader (Justin Trudeau) that wants to turn Canada in the mirror image of the UK.. Including I might add allowing sharia law.

Look, Harper has his faults and is not perfect.. no leader is.. however, Harper has been on the forefront on protecting Canadian sovereignty and Canadian culture.

Many countries want to challenge Canada's northern borders, because of oil and gas.. Harper sent more troops to our North.

When Obama said no to Keystone, Harper pushed forward with closer ties to China in trade of Canada resources..

Harper bolsters Canadian sovereignty.

Our resources is what makes the Canadian economy what it is today..

Our resources.... NOT Harper.

 

[B00Mer]

Our resources.... NOT Harper.

But Harper supports resource exploration, Trudeau would love to try and shut down the Oil Sands and stop Fracking.

I'm all for Green, alternative power and I do believe in Climate Change. But I'm also a realist, we can't just shoot our-self in the foot and our economy to appease the Green movement by killing Big Oil..

We have to ween ourselves into wind, solar, geothermal and hydrogen.. we have to push for alternative energy with incentives and not by punishing industry with bad legislation such as KYOTO (which Trudeau supports).

 

[Cannuck]

Because you're supporting a leader (Justin Trudeau) that wants to turn Canada in the mirror image of the UK.. Including I might add allowing sharia law.

Really? I don't recall saying I support Justin Trudeau. Perhaps you could provide a link or a quote to refresh my memory. Take your time. I can wait.

 

[lone wolf]

But Harper supports resource exploration, Trudeau would love to try and shut down the Oil Sands and stop Fracking.

I'm all for Green, alternative power and I do believe in Climate Change. But I'm also a realist, we can't just shoot our-self in the foot and our economy to appease the Green movement by killing Big Oil..

We have to ween ourselves into wind, solar, geothermal and hydrogen.. we have to push for alternative energy with incentives and not by punishing industry with bad legislation such as KYOTO (which Trudeau supports).

Exploration or exploitation, the resources were here long before Harper and will be here long after Harper. How fast they are harvested will determine how much benefit they are to Canadians - ALL Canadians

 

[Zipperfish]

Your inability to post without spelling errors does not make you look real smart either.

I'm a great speller, I'll have you know. Just a reallly lousy typer. :lol:

But Harper supports resource exploration, Trudeau would love to try and shut down the Oil Sands and stop Fracking.

I'm all for Green, alternative power and I do believe in Climate Change. But I'm also a realist, we can't just shoot our-self in the foot and our economy to appease the Green movement by killing Big Oil..

We have to ween ourselves into wind, solar, geothermal and hydrogen.. we have to push for alternative energy with incentives and not by punishing industry with bad legislation such as KYOTO (which Trudeau supports).

Yeah a couple of little problems here.

Fiurst off, here's Trudeau on the oil sands...

Federal Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has praised Alberta Premier Alison Redford
for her efforts to get the United States to approve the Keystone XL pipeline.

Read more: Justin Trudeau praises Alberta premier for Keystone efforts | CTV News

from Trudeau's website:

While urging more research on its impacts, a prominent Liberal MP came out
Friday in support of Alberta’s oilsands

As for Kyoto, it's been off the table for years. It was replaced by the Copenhagen Accord. And it was never legislation.

My advice is to check to see if you know what you're talking about before opening your yap.

 

[B00Mer]

Interesting, trying to find it, but when Europe tried to legislate against oil-sands-derived crude Trudeau supported their actions, it was in a Quebec paper..

I'll ask my buddy today at work to get me a copy and post it.. he's from Quebec.

But it looks like I was wrong on that point.. and will admit it until I find the article.

I'm a great speller, I'll have you know. Just a reallly lousy typer. :lol:

My issue is with the iPhone spell checker.. you post via your iPhone and the dam thing puts in an entirely different word.

agh fudgsicle

 

[L Gilbert]

In my [admittedly unscientific] estimation, liberal governments tend to spend on infrastructure, social programs and services and enticing industry, while conservatives tend to spend on tax kick-backs, 'security', military and police hardware (expensive manure* to blow up - bought from .... well, not from OPSEU members.)

really? Why did the Liberal gov'ts tend to ignore the health care system and let it stagnate? (It used to be something like 50% funded by the feds and now it's like 10 or 15%).
Why did Martin make deep cuts to seniors programs?

Why did the existing Con gov't raise the age of consent to 16 (from 14), allow same-sex marriages, raise child-care allowances, drop $14 billion for FN housing, education and health, etc.?

lol

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

I think that's generally true of governments and parties that call themselves conservative nowadays. Since the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney axis, actually. They don't conserve anything: they're funnels of their nation's wealth into offshore accounts. And that, sooner than later, necessitates putting the plebes in their place.

As far as I'm concerned Barry Goldwater was the last real conservative leader in the US and Robert Stanfield the last in Canada.

What we have now on the right in North America seems to be dominated by a twisted mess of disaster capitalism from the Chicago school and evangelical christianity that has as a central tenant of its faith that the world needs to end before its saviour will return...what could go wrong with that.

 

[Cannuck]

Really? I don't recall saying I support Justin Trudeau. Perhaps you could provide a link or a quote to refresh my memory. Take your time. I can wait.

Have you found it yet?