welfare is supposed to be a short term help... not long term... too many use it and abuse it.... I agree with something has to be done.. too many are on too long....
welfare is supposed to be a short term help... not long term... too many use it and abuse it.... I agree with something has to be done.. too many are on too long....
Lester said: Drug addiction is an illness make no mistake by assuming that it's a choice it may have been in the begining when a person first starts using but once addicted it becomes a downward spiral that usually ends in an overdose and death.
SourceIMPERIAL OIL DRUG TESTING POLICY RUNS AGROUND
The Ontario Court of Appeal has issued its long anticipated decision on the legality of Imperial Oil's drug testing policy. In the result, after nearly a decade of struggle, Imperial Oil employee Marty Entrop, CCLA, and the Ontario Human Rights Commission have won a qualified victory in the fight against universal pre-employment and random safety-sensitive urinalysis drug testing. While the Court declared that such testing violates the human rights of employees, technical grounds prevented the Court from ordering Imperial to kill its policy immediately. However, while the policy is still potentially afloat, it is effectively dead in the water. Imperial Oil has announced that it has suspended the policy indefinitely.
When I had moved to Toronto I had applied for unemployment from my last job in New Brunswick. I was asked why I quit my job in N.B. I told them a friend had just moved to Toronto, told me there may be better jobs than the part time job I had had in N.B. Needless to say, I got refused unemployment because I had quit my job. So of course, I went straight to the welfare office. The first cheque I got from them was about the same I received from my part time job in N.B. I thought, wow! I spent 6 months in Toronto, on welfare enjoying the sights and entertainment before I decided to fly off to Korea for a real job. I can see though, why some people do not want to go off it. Man, those cheques are big.![]()
Geez, any kind of government money is hardly enough to keep anyone in Timmy's for a month let alone put a roof over your head, feed and clothe you.When I had moved to Toronto I had applied for unemployment from my last job in New Brunswick. I was asked why I quit my job in N.B. I told them a friend had just moved to Toronto, told me there may be better jobs than the part time job I had had in N.B. Needless to say, I got refused unemployment because I had quit my job. So of course, I went straight to the welfare office. The first cheque I got from them was about the same I received from my part time job in N.B. I thought, wow! I spent 6 months in Toronto, on welfare enjoying the sights and entertainment before I decided to fly off to Korea for a real job. I can see though, why some people do not want to go off it. Man, those cheques are big.![]()
No it is you who is the acolyte in this matter- I on the other hand have first hand experience with Alcohol and drug abuse My brother died of an overdose, his sons are drug addicts, I have seen dozens of people die from it, be "it" heroin, crack, dillies, cough syrup, meth/speed some of them were related, others were friends of theirs- I contest that I could be considered an expert in this matter-You sir obviously have never taken a drug stronger then an aspirin. I would have to infer from this statement that you know nothing of drug use. "usually ends in an overdose and death". If your opinion held water at all, the population of the world would be very much smaller than it is now. I personally know many who have been or are addicted to drugs. However I do not know anyone who has died from an overdose and I am not all that young. Your statement is small minded and just a stereotype that I feel is associated with holier than thou religious hypocrites.
No it is you who is the acolyte in this matter- I on the other hand have first hand experience with Alcohol and drug abuse My brother died of an overdose, his sons are drug addicts, I have seen dozens of people die from it, be "it" heroin, crack, dillies, cough syrup, meth/speed some of them were related, others were friends of theirs- I contest that I could be considered an expert in this matter-
Well most of these people did- it was in the seventies and eighties, and these were my brothers associates, I knew them all and even took one of them to the hospital once( he was po'ed because they gave him something and it ruined his high) but during that time these people went out of control and dropped like flies.It may be different now because it's meth and crack but the results are just as bad, when these people are desperate for the dope they will just about comit any kind of low act to get the money for it. They will steal anything not nailed down charity boxes(poppy fund), purses,Shoplift, robbery, B & E's and from family.Sorry lester but I have to agree with eh1eh on this one. "Most" people that do drugs do not overdose OR die. The fact that 12 people you know have is quit abnormal. You could not find a single person on this site that could say the same. I am also quit courious of your nationality. Can you tell me, did any of these people that died or have overdosed have jobs? Anyways, the statement you made is false.
When it comes to pot, which is what the companies test for, there has never been a documented case of an overdose or death from the drug. It is impossible to happen.
I grew up during the 70's, one of the decades you refer to. You are right that there were many ODs and deaths back then. I could name a few people that either OD or got bumped off as the gangs and organized crime saw a lucrative, growing industry.Well most of these people did- it was in the seventies and eighties, and these were my brothers associates, I knew them all and even took one of them to the hospital once( he was po'ed because they gave him something and it ruined his high) but during that time these people went out of control and dropped like flies.It may be different now because it's meth and crack but the results are just as bad, when these people are desperate for the dope they will just about comit any kind of low act to get the money for it. They will steal anything not nailed down charity boxes(poppy fund), purses,Shoplift, robbery, B & E's and from family.
I have a friend who comes from a very good family, all of them are hard working middle class Canadians. He owned his home and had lived in it for five years always making a large principal payment every year, he had a new car (paid for), investments, made tons of cash. he got in with the wrong crowd and got strung out on crack and lost everything within three years. He is now recovering, albeit slowly. This sort of thing, sadly, is not all that uncommon.
I know the culture from then. It was akin to the wild west, very much a free for all. But that is not the same as now.
Oh I agree with you there Karrie.Oh I beg to differ. I know eh1eh and albertabound seem to be basing their counter arguments on pot, but if you head up to the meth soaked north, it's still a wildwest show, with the hell's angels and various other gangs running a free for all. People are dying of it. It's no joke.
I grew up during the 70's, one of the decades you refer to. You are right that there were many ODs and deaths back then. I could name a few people that either OD or got bumped off as the gangs and organized crime saw a lucrative, growing industry.
The drug industry was new.The drugs would come in from the States and get cut here. Dealers toted guns and hit up. I know the culture from then. It was akin to the wild west, very much a free for all. But that is not the same as now.
Guess you would not favour my idea of all drugs becoming legal and controlled like alcohol.
Actually, I would be in favour of pot, but I don't think addictive drugs should be legal,