An actual post from an American Re: Iraq War

[moghrabi]

Being from the generation of the Vietnam era hitting the brick wall of 50, my services have been declined down by the Army, Marines, Air Force reservists and Guard; specifiying a section Code for automatic disqualification for enlistment due to age and/or health reasons. Evidently there is no room for old people to be employed in the war effort in the middle east. Emails sent to my Senators, Represenatives and the even the President have all gone unanswered; as well as my application with KBR-Haliburn to work under a civilian capacity. I suspect for health reasons. My son is not yet a teenager, and I as his parent have no desire to see him sent off to a war in a draft as was the case in 'Nam - with his entire life to live ahead of him. Let's get this thing done and over with right now. The government has tactical field nuclear weapons which were stationed in Europe RIGHT? What is with this door to door, hand to hand combat? "Rules of Engagement" Those guys don't HAVE rules - except for to kill any allied armed military prescene - in as a great of quantity as possible before being killed. They are using a war of attrition - same as in 'Nam. If it takes my 50 year old aged presence, I'd rather gather up my blood pressure and arthtitus pills (nothing taken for the maligant cancer I went through back in 2002), and go over there to help bring this situation to a closure - instead of my son. Vietnam and it's entire scenario still rings in my ears; the resemblance between these two "conflicts" are remarkably identical. You would figure that the USA government could use a person trained 30 years in the transportation industry and 23 years in the computer I.T. industry; specializing in Information Security on networks. aka:InfoSec. No, they only have age riders for the medical field - doctors and nurses up to 47, to keep these young kids alive after an engagement. My first question pertaining to Iraq and Afghanistan is how in the hell is all this orandinance being obtained and used againt our guys, if the military conducted sweeps and DESTROYED all insurgency sources of ammo stores? Again, the 'Nam and VC ordeal pops up as a reminder. I feel for those guys/gals over there, as in Vietnam, they cannot fire upon suspected individuals for fear of being Court Martialed for killing "fiendlies". WHAT FRIENDLIES? They all dress the same, except the "masks come on" upon an event, then come off just as quickly. Just like the Vietnam situation, with the exception of the mask part. Charlie didn't even bother with that. Do we have special forces units operating in other middle eastern countries as well (same as Laos and Cambodia), and will the war effort spread and expand for another 10-15 years, before the USA pulls out? It's time to take off the gloves, remove the limited use of miltary force (such as thos wonderously fastastic and horrendously expensive "intelligent" weapons), and handle this thing in the good old American way back in WWII. Collateral damage - sure it happens, but who said war was a fun and happy place to go to work? Our buddies with the masks over there have no problem with using it. Its time to pull back our guys to a safe distance and let the heavy rounds detonate. WHY the need for house to house, room to room, hand to hand combat? The Russians learned this the hard way back in 1945 in Berlin, because they had no other way of contending with their problem and goals. This is a very expensive way in terms of manpower to achieve military objectives. I see no closure in this; only a prolonged solution expanding over into another generation of American citizens who are right now happily going to school and playing with their friends. What ever happened to the great American military might that the world respected and took notice of? It's all sitting in stockpiles in various strategic locatin within the U.S, doing our people in the middle east absolutely NO GOOD whatsoever. Our government is doing a fantastic job of applying Martial Law against U.S citizens here in the 'states during natural disasters and civil unrest; why can't they apply the identical success in the middle east? Fear of hurting the feelings of some extremist groups? I make no apologies for the polictically incorrect essay provided above. I call it as I see it.


Posted by florida_express2003 on Sun, Oct 16, 2005 5:29 AM ET


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[moghrabi]

RE: An actual post from a

No parargraphs, No new sentences. Just madness.

 

[Twila]

RE: An actual post from a

Well it sounds like he has every reason to be mad (as in insane) he was in vietnam after all.

 

[moghrabi]

RE: An actual post from a

agree Twilla. He hasn't recovered from that war. He will be joined by thousands more from this war.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: An actual post from a

Unfortunately, I've been hearing that same sentiment from right-wing people (in the US and Canada) all of my life. Those who have been in the military seem prone to it, but those who have never served yet worship the military seem even more likely to suggest moronic things like, "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out.

 

[GL Schmitt]

To be fair, his response was entered through the “Comments” input of a Yahoo! News story, which notoriously ignore line spacing and any other form of pagation.

That said, attempted suicide is one symptom of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

We should cut the poor man some slack.

 

[moghrabi]

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Sorry about not knowing about yahoo line spacing. Thanks GL.

As for suicide, I think he should consider it given that he would like to nuke a whole country.

 

[Twila]

RE: An actual post from a

Unfortunately, I've been hearing that same sentiment from right-wing people (in the US and Canada) all of my life. Those who have been in the military seem prone to it, but those who have never served yet worship the military seem even more likely to suggest moronic things like, "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out.

On the documentary channel a couple of months ago they had a special on War Reporters. I learned that these types of reporters become addicted to the action. I wonder if those who've served also become addicted to the adrenalin. Extreme sports junkies do. So do those who run marathons. Why not soldiers.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: An actual post from a

Unfortunately, I've been hearing that same sentiment from right-wing people (in the US and Canada) all of my life. Those who have been in the military seem prone to it, but those who have never served yet worship the military seem even more likely to suggest moronic things like, "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out.

On the documentary channel a couple of months ago they had a special on War Reporters. I learned that these types of reporters become addicted to the action. I wonder if those who've served also become addicted to the adrenalin. Extreme sports junkies do. So do those who run marathons. Why not soldiers.

absolutely !! Adrenalin addiction. action addiction.......etc are all a real potential.

 

[jimmoyer]

My gawd, let's rush rush rush to judgement at such a portrayal.

All though majorly plausible, it would be wiser to consider that there are so many variables and dimensions to the character of each person thrown into war that I'd hate to see cartoon psychology rule the day here.

 

[Hard-Luck Henry]

Re: RE: An actual post from a

Unfortunately, I've been hearing that same sentiment from right-wing people (in the US and Canada) all of my life. Those who have been in the military seem prone to it, but those who have never served yet worship the military seem even more likely to suggest moronic things like, "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out.

I came across the following recently: it's Anatol Lieven's review of Andrew Bacevich's "The New American Militarism: How Americans Are Seduced by War", which describes the way that the Bushites were able to manipulate the US public's obsession with militarism in their push for war.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v27/n20/liev01_.html(from The London Review of Books)

 

[Reverend Blair]

On the documentary channel a couple of months ago they had a special on War Reporters. I learned that these types of reporters become addicted to the action. I wonder if those who've served also become addicted to the adrenalin. Extreme sports junkies do. So do those who run marathons. Why not soldiers.

I have no doubt they do. War correspondents tend to fall into two camps...those that feel they can end war by showing it to people, and those who feel they are serving their country by reporting the war (usually in terms favourable to their government). I wonder how many of the former remain in the military?

I came across the following recently: it's Anatol Lieven's review of Andrew Bacevich's "The New American Militarism: How Americans Are Seduced by War", which describes the way that the Bushites were able to manipulate the US public's obsession with militarism in their push for war.

Excellent article