America's Medicated Army

Scott Free

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We have a friend who is a bomber pilot. Acting under the info of certain "intelligence" people, her group was ordered to bomb a particular building in Iraq. As it turned out, it was a school. It has been a couple years or so and she still has nightmares.
There was a bit on the radio the other day that there have been suicides because some of the soldiers can't handle killing non-combatants. US Military command has its head stuffed up its 6.

I don't see why a drug should help someone in her situation. If people didn't react like she did our species probably wouldn't be here. Sometimes we are just meant to feel crummy IMO.
 

tracy

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Feel crummy... I think clinical depression goes a bit beyond that. I have a friend who has been on anti-depressants for a long time. She should probably never go off them. For her, the problem isn't that something sad happens and makes her depressed. It's that she's depressed for no reason at all.
 

Said1

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I don't see why a drug should help someone in her situation. If people didn't react like she did our species probably wouldn't be here. Sometimes we are just meant to feel crummy IMO.

Sometimes dealing with something is hard due to effects of pts (anxiety, guilt) that can worsen over time. Drugs are meant to aid in the entire process, not the solution (in many, many cases the causes for depression are external, not internal -chemical)
 

darkbeaver

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Shovel it into them stuff every orifice bathe them in drugs of every kind the sooner they loose thier minds the sooner the murder of innocents will stop. Who cares about the soulless bastards anyway?
 

thomaska

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I got some Motrin once..when i was in iraq....obviously i had some ****ty docs if everyone else was gettin the good stuff..dammit all
 

dancing-loon

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Do we Canadians not remember the "friendly fire" incident that killed four of our soldiers?

US pilots in friendly fire case `were given amphetamines'

Why?
To make them cocky and keep them awake longer, so they can fly longer?

Refresh your memory:
US pilots in friendly fire case `were given amphetamines' - The Independent - London | Encyclopedia.com
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What amphetamines can do:
[FONT=verdana, tahoma, helvetica] [FONT=verdana, tahoma, helvetica] A fatigued person, when he takes amphetamines, - shows a physical and mental boost. His fatigue subsides; strength returns to him. He is able to do physical work again, sometimes more than what he yields normally. He also shows an increased capacity to concentrate and think. [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, tahoma, helvetica] The user also feels gay, happy, up in spirit. Hence the popular names given to amphetamines: "pep pills," "jolly beans."[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, tahoma, helvetica] Unknown to abusers, however, is: amphetamines push them to a greater burning of energy than normal, much more than they realize. Utter fatigue often results, which usually goes undetected until it is too late. Herein lies a main danger of the "Up" drugs.[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, tahoma, helvetica] When amphetamines are "mainlined" or injected, an ecstatic "high" occurs. This buoyant and lifting feeling subsides after a few hours, however; to reproduce the hyper-stimulation, the abuser gets a re-injection, The cycle can go on for days until the abuser is physically and mentally exhausted. [/FONT]
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http://library.thinkquest.org/C005038/amp.htm

So... soldiers go artificially pumped up into battle! They feel no fear, no danger, no hunger, no tiredness, no anxiety or depression... until they crash.

They are given handfuls of these pep pills before they leave on a mission. I read that at the time of this incident.
 

dancing-loon

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....So I therefore think these drugs are too dangerous except in extreme cases. People are much better off changing their life style, addressing their issues and avoiding stresses.
They are dangerous and many are habit forming!
It would be nice, if one could just change ones lifestyle like ones underwear, but in most cases of depression that is not easy. Take rape and incest victims... it's probably for life.
Avoid stress? Why not avoid life?
To talk about the pain, the guilt, the failure...? Perhaps, once one has become an octogenarian one might have the insight and the strength and the forgiveness of self or others to talk about it.

Soldiers have to endure and keep going... hence they are provided with pills, when necessary.

I wonder how these two American pilots are dealing with the impact of this tragedy? Are they depressed? Are they on pills? I don't know.

??? why do I say "tragedy"?? Am I so conditioned already to think it is not a tragedy to kill enemy soldiers?? I guess I am... it's the name of the game; you go to war to kill the enemy!!!
What happened to "Thou shalt not kill"?