American Bigotry leading Port Security issue

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Arab-Americans contended on Tuesday that bias and bigotry, not security concerns, lay behind the uproar over a deal that would place commercial operations at six U.S. ports in the hands of an Arab company.

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The furor centers around the $6.8 billion acquisition by Dubai Ports World, owned by one of the United Arab Emirates, of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. P&O had been running operations at shipping terminals in New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami, and Philadelphia.

Citing what they say are fears of lax security, politicians from both parties called on President George W. Bush to cancel the deal and several began drafting legislation to block it. The issue was also increasingly being aired on conservative talk radio stations and in Internet blogs.

"I find some of the rhetoric being used against this deal shameful and irresponsible. There is bigotry coming out here," said James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute.

He said politicians were exploiting fears left over from September 11 to gain advantage in a congressional election year.

"Bush is vulnerable so the Democrats jump on it. The Republicans feel vulnerable so they jump on it. The slogan is, if it's Arab, it's bad. Hammer away," Zogby said.

According to some industry analysts, the change in management would have no real effect on security, which would still be carried out by American workers to international standards. The UAE, whose government owns Dubai Ports World, is an international financial hub and close U.S. ally.

"The Emirates have been very pro-active partners in helping our security. They have a solid track record of cooperation," said Peter Tirschwell, publisher of the Journal of Commerce.

Rabiah Ahmed of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said members of her organization also believed anti-Arab bigotry was driving the debate.

"The perception in the Arab-American community is that this is related to anti-Arab sentiment," she said.

Despite the UAE's close ties to the United States, some critics say lax controls allowed some of the September 11 hijackers to exploit its banking sector to transfer funds to support the attacks. Others have suggested its commercial links with Iran are a cause for worry.

"It is obviously an emotional, political and security issue, but I don't see xenophobia involved in this," said Peter Brookes of the conservative Heritage Foundation.

CHINESE PRECEDENT

The opposition was reminiscent of a similar controversy last year when China National Offshore Oil Company Ltd. tried to purchase Unocal, a U.S. oil services company. The Chinese company ultimately withdrew its offer in the face of fierce political opposition.

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsay Graham said Americans were not against foreign acquisitions as such but were suspicious when they involved security infrastructure.

"Americans right now want free trade, but when it comes to national security issues, we want to maintain the infrastructure ourselves," he told Fox News Sunday.

"I don't think now is the time to outsource major port security to a foreign-based company," he said.

Daniel Griswold of the libertarian Cato Institute said opposition to the Emirates acquisition had more merit than the opposition to the Chinese energy bid.

"Here, there are legitimate questions of port security. Experts have long warned us that U.S. ports could be an entry point for weapons of mass destruction and we can only search one container in every 20 that come in," he said.

But Griswold conceded anti-Arab feelings were also playing a role. "It's obviously part of the mix and there's also some misunderstanding and a lot of political grandstanding going on," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060221/us_nm/ports_bias_dc
 

jimmoyer

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There's another angle here.

I'm not sure what to make of it.

But no American company exists to run
a cargo container sea port.

And when the Brits sell their company to the UAE,
there will absolutely be NO BRITISH company in the
cargo container sea port MARKET.

It's kind of like Haliburton's soon to be ejected KBR company. THERE ARE ALMOST NO BIG COMPANIES
that ever contract business in a war zone.
 

gopher

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I'm not sure what to make of all this but I saw in the ultra liberal web site democratic underground.com where the consensus is that the objection to the sale is not based on racism. It does appear that members of both political parties from all persuasions agree that this sale is unwise.
 

Jay

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It's kinda funny....all of a sudden Democrats are concerned about national security...

There must be more to it than this.... I know, maybe it's the union workers down at the port complaining rather than an issue of national security.
 

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Re: RE: American Bigotry leading Port Security issue

Jay said:
It's kinda funny....all of a sudden Democrats are concerned about national security...

There must be more to it than this.... I know, maybe it's the union workers down at the port complaining rather than an issue of national security.

The Democrats were against NAFTA until Clinton came into power. Then suddenly they were all for it.

NAFTA wasn't a good deal for America when Reagan and Bush tried to get it passed. As soon as Bill gets into office it soared through.

I was in the electrical union at the time and we were BS. Our Union Bosses were all saying

"Don't worry... we'll remember at election time!"

Come election time... VOTE DEMOCRAT MEN!
 

Jay

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Democrats are Americans also Jay, the right wing doesn't have exclusive rights eh?

I know that.


Doesn't it seem strange to you Democrats are turning this into a national security issue? Is it just a knee jerk reaction we are seeing from them...or is something else going on?
 

jimmoyer

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I'm a conservative rightwing Amerikan Republican Pig
and I reacted the same way as the Democrats did
about these cargo container seaports run by the UAE
company.

But...

I think we're all learning slowly a few more details
about this issue.
 

I think not

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Re: RE: American Bigotry leading Port Security issue

jimmoyer said:
I'm a conservative rightwing Amerikan Republican Pig
and I reacted the same way as the Democrats did
about these cargo container seaports run by the UAE
company.

But...

I think we're all learning slowly a few more details
about this issue.

I have to agree with jim here, more information is slowly coming out and it doesn't appear to be much of a security concern as originally thought. Let's see.
 

Jay

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jimmoyer said:
I'm a conservative rightwing Amerikan Republican Pig
and I reacted the same way as the Democrats did
about these cargo container seaports run by the UAE
company.


Ya same here, and I've been listening to American right wing propaganda for the last few days....I know there is dissention among the ranks in Conservative land (depending who you listen to, mind you).

I think the Democrats are going to eat crow on this one and it isn't going to be because they were wrong, it will be because they were found supporting other interests instead of national security.

And that is my new knee jerk reaction
 

jimmoyer

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Well, unfortunately, I think some of the democratic
party leaders were more opportunistic than sincere
in their immediate protests.

And yeah, the conservatives are not united on this
issue, but you can feel them listening and catching
up on more details.

And so are the democrats too.

In fact the conservates are very divided on all
matters of border security from the seaports to
the land borders to the airports.

This is a gestation period.

heh heh
 

Jay

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Ya, there's a strategy that has always worked for you Americans....have you guys actually ever pinned anything on us yet? :D
 

Jay

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Re: RE: American Bigotry leading Port Security issue

jimmoyer said:
We love Canada !!!

Even if they think us capitalistic pigs.


Only some of us do...
 

Curiosity

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Well....what I heard (gossip gossip)....

The actual inspections of all the docks will still (as before) remain in the hands of the U.S. Border Patrol, Customs Agents, and the USCIS (that's the Immigration) Agents.

The containers, and staff to load and unload are hired and owned by the UAI (formerly the UK), and will probably have to pass muster to even work in the U.S. to begin with.

So.............. it ain't racism...... it's fear of open borders and terrorists...... But....

If you need to play the race card, go for it. Race isn't the issue - blame it on the 19 guys who flew the planes into the towers, a New Jersey field, and the Pentagon on 9/11. I'll play the race card on that one - they were all militant Islamists of Arabic heritage...
 

Jay

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Well the mad cow thingy worked, we'll think of something new though. :wink:

Well it looks like the first one took over 200 years to accomplish, so forgive us we don't take all this to seriously... :)