All you need is ubuntu (BBC)

hermite

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By Sean Coughlan
BBC News Magazine

Bill Clinton told the Labour conference to get into ubuntu. Eh?
Ubuntu. That was what Bill Clinton told the Labour party conference it needed to remember this week. "Society is important because of Ubuntu."
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No, it's a word describing an African worldview, which translates as "I am because you are," and which means that individuals need other people to be fulfilled.

The former president, husky-voiced and down-home with the delegates, gave it a folksy flavour, describing it in terms of needing to be around others to enjoy being ourselves.

If we were the most beautiful, the most intelligent, the most wealthy, the most powerful person - and then found all of a sudden that we were alone on the planet, it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans," said Mr Clinton.

The word comes from the Bantu languages spoken in southern Africa - and is related to a Zulu concept - "umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu" - which means that a person is only a person through their relationship to others.
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more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm

Be sure to read down to the comments for some good thoughts, like:

No man is an Island and a tree cannot make a forest so the saying goes in Bini, Edo state of Nigeria. I strongly agree with former President Clinton in the use of the word Ubuntu. Let us be our brothers' keeper. The fortunate should lend a helping hand to the unfortunate. Unity is strength.

The essence and depth of 'ubuntu' as a concept lies in the age-long African philosophy and practice of communalism and shared objectives. You are your neighbours' keeper. With the emergence of 'western civilization' we are increasingly becoming individualistic and competitive. Capitalism and the philosophy of every person for himself is a challenge for ubuntu. We are all extricably linked and if you buy into the philosophy of ubuntu then I have your back and you have mine. I am because you are - togetherness is it.

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Bill Gates ain't going to like this.
 

Nuggler

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Ubuntu is a wonderful theory, and if put into practice, fantastic.

Last night I happened to see the repeat of a Doc. concerning Darfur, and the genocide which occurred there.

So, that's all over, methinks, and went and got an update on Google.

Nope, sorry, so much for ubuntu, or anything else remotely concerned for caring for others. The genocide is still going on;, murder, rape, displacement.

The UN et al has been TALKING about this since about 2003, and EVERY DAY ordinary Africans live in horror and terror without food or medicine, while they are slaughtered by Arab Janjaweed. The ironic thing is, most of the black Africans being thusly abused are Islamic, just like the Arabs killing them............

Ubuntu would be lovely. Clinton should be reminded that talk's cheap.
 

Scott Free

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Ubuntu because Africa is such a shining example of peace and prosperity

Sure just what we need. :roll:

Maybe Clinton is going senile?