Those are not precise facts... why didn't you include the title from the paragraph you copied Logic 7?
"Allegations of FBI foreknowledge"
"Allegations of FBI foreknowledge"
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Al-Qaeda Seeks Nuclear Attack on UK
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In the bizarre-twisted world of the conspiracists, its always an inside-job. You're right, "Logic". In 1993, a year after Clinton was elected, the neocons began their Grand Conspiracy to elect a guy President seven years later, who had just been elected governor of Texas, who prior to being elected, had pretty much failed at everything else.
Do you know how they broke the case? The guy who rented the van in which they placed all the explosives returned to the car rental place a few days later and demanded his $400 deposit back.
Yeah, it was an inside job. Ruthlessly competent, that.
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I didnt have to include them, the link was provided, if the peoples are too lazy to click on the link, then i it isnt my problem.
In the bizarre-twisted world of the conspiracists, its always an inside-job. You're right, "Logic". In 1993, a year after Clinton was elected, the neocons began their Grand Conspiracy to elect a guy President seven years later, who had just been elected governor of Texas, who prior to being elected, had pretty much failed at everything else.
Do you know how they broke the case? The guy who rented the van in which they placed all the explosives returned to the car rental place a few days later and demanded his $400 deposit back.
Yeah, it was an inside job. Ruthlessly competent, that.
From 1989 to 1993, mujahadeen/al queada and taliban received 4bn$ from the USA to form their governement, so please stop the bullstrawberry crap.
Ok, you lost me. Cut what crap? I asked a simple question, because it seemed reasonable to ask.
So is that yes, if does not fit neatly into your perspective is propoganda? I just ask because everything anyone has posted that contradicts your train of thought, is summarily dismissed with prejudice by you.
It just seems that everything and everyone is wrong except you, in your eyes. If that truly were the case, then why don't you run for office. You seem to have all the answers.
In the black and white world of the conspiracists, where black is black and white is black, everything always points back to some evil, nefarious conspiracy. No claim is too outrageous. No conspiracy is too far-fetched. Life is a great big Connect-the-Dots book. Now, if you could only see the picture.
It just seems that everything and everyone is wrong except you, in your eyes.
Actually, you are projecting your own goofy ideas.
Again, why would al-qaeda be telling the world of its plans? And if the CIA and Mossad know of those plans, why haven't they stopped them? After all, forewarned is forearmed.
Like it or not the majority of Americans oppose the war and it is now a hopeless cause. The Bush regime is doing all it can to justify further warism but it can find nobody to fight or support it.
If you don't bleieve in "nefarious conspiracy" then why do you believe AQ is telegraphing its so called plans?
Actually, you are projecting your own goofy ideas.
Again, why would al-qaeda be telling the world of its plans? And if the CIA and Mossad know of those plans, why haven't they stopped them? After all, forewarned is forearmed.
Like it or not the majority of Americans oppose the war and it is now a hopeless cause. The Bush regime is doing all it can to justify further warism but it can find nobody to fight or support it.
If you don't bleieve in "nefarious conspiracy" then why do you believe AQ is telegraphing its so called plans?
forgot the precise facts
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html
The Austin American-Statesman, November 25, 2001, pg. A-11
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Note that when I posted links to Ostrovsky and Beit-Hallahmi who have written of Israeli spies and terrorism, none of the right wingers on this forum bother to look them up or to offer any valid counterpoint.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html
HUNDREDS OF MOSSAD AGENTS
CAUGHT RUNNING WILD IN AMERICA!
Warren Royal
CAUGHT RUNNING WILD IN AMERICA!
Warren Royal
Originally posted at http://www.la.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/74953_comment.php?theme=1
The Austin American-Statesman, November 25, 2001, pg. A-11
We spoke earlier about the five celebrating Israeli "movers", (Mossad agents), who were arrested and placed in solitary confinement for weeks after they were spotted in a white van suspected of attempting to blow up the George Washington Bridge. We also reviewed how the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems - Dominick Suter - then suddenly abandoned his “moving company” and fled for Israel on 9-14. But there were still more Israeli "movers" and other Israelis whose actions raise serious suspicions. Even more suspicious is how they are always quietly released and deported. In October of 2001, three more Israeli "movers" were stopped in Plymouth, PA because of their suspicious behavior. These "movers" were seen dumping furniture near a restaurant dumpster! When the restaurant manager approached the driver, a "Middle Eastern" man later identified as Moshe Elmakias fled the scene. The manager made note of the truck's sign which read "Moving Systems Incorporated" and called the police. When the police spotted the truck, two other Israelis - Ayelet Reisler and Ron Katar began acting suspiciously. The Plymouth police searched the truck and found a video. The Israelis were taken into custody and the video tape was played at the police station. The video revealed footage of Chicago with zoomed in shots of the Sears Tower. The police quickly alerted the FBI and it was also discovered that the Israelis had falsified travel logs and phony paperwork on them. (1) They were also unable to provide a name and telephone number for the customer that they claimed to have been working for. These Israelis were up to some sort of dirty business, and you can be sure it had nothing to do with moving furniture. These Israeli spies may have had a dark sense of humor. The name of their “moving company” actually contained the word MOSSAD embedded inside. Moving Systems Incorporated…MOving SyStems IncorporAteD…….MOSSAD
On October 10, 2001, CNN made a brief mention of a foiled terrorist bomb plot in the Mexican Parliament building. They promised to bring any further developments of this story to their viewers, but the incident was never heard of again in America. But the story appeared in bold headlines on the front page of the major Mexican newspapers (2) and was also posted on the official website of the Mexican Justice Department. (3) Two terror suspects were apprehended in the Mexican Chamber of Deputies. Caught red-handed, they had in their possession a high powered gun, nine hand grenades, and C-4 plastic explosives (great stuff for demolishing buildings!) Within days, this blockbuster story not only disappeared from the Mexican press, but the Israelis were quietly released and deported! The two terrorists were Salvador Gerson Sunke and Sar ben Zui. Can you guess what their ethnicity was? Sunke was a Mexican jew and Zui was a colonel with the Israeli special forces (MOSSAD). (4)
The story in El Diario de Mexico went on to reveal that the Zionist terrorists had fake Pakistani passports on them. Can you say "false flag operation?" The probable motive of this particular botched terrorist operation was to involve oil rich Mexico in the "War on Terrorism". (The War on Israel's enemies would be a more accurate description). Mexico is no military power, but the psychological trauma of an "Arab" attack on Mexico would surely have induced Mexico to provide unlimited cheap oil to her American "protector". With cheap oil flowing to America at low prices from Mexico, the US could better afford to break off relations with the oil rich Arab states in general and Saudi Arabia in particular. That‘s why the planners chose 15 Saudi identities to steal for the 9-11 operation.
Many Mexicans expressed shock at the release of the two Israelis. But when you learn that Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Relations is a Zionist named Jorge Gutman, it's not surprising! The Zionist tentacles reach even into Mexico! La Voz de Aztlan (Mexican-American news service), in it's excellent investigative report revealed:
"La Voz de Aztlan has learned that the Israeli Embassy used heavy handed measures to have the two Israelis released. Very high level emergency meetings took place between Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Jorge Gutman, General Macedo de la Concha and a top Ariel Sharon envoy who flew to Mexico City specially for that purpose. Elías Luf of the Israeli Embassy worked night and day and their official spokeswoman Hila Engelhart went into high gear after many hours of complete silence. What went on during those high level meetings no one knows, but many in Mexico are in disbelief at their release." (5)
In November of 2001, 6 more suspicious Israelis were detained in an unspecified mid-eastern state. They had in their possession box cutters, oil pipeline plans, and nuclear power plant plans. (6) The local police called in the Feds and Immigration officials took over the scene and released the men without calling the FBI. The Jerusalem Post, the Miami Herald, (7) and the Times of London (8) all carried this amazing story and all revealed how furious FBI officials were that these terror suspects with nuclear power plant plans were allowed to go free. Of course, the corruption riddled FBI would only have caved into Zionist pressure from the Justice Department’s Criminal Division boss, Michael Chertoff, and also from the ADL’s “partner”, FBI boss Robert Mueller - who would no doubt have found a way to eventually release those Israeli terror suspects too.
In December, 2001, the Los Angeles Times published the story of how two jewish terrorists were arrested by the FBI for plotting to blow up the office of US Congressman of Arab descent - Darrell Issa (R-CA), and a California mosque. (9) Irv Rubin and Earl Kruger of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) were charged with conspiracy to destroy a building by means of explosives. This story got brief national coverage but quickly disappeared too. These Zionists sure love blowing up buildings and killing innocent people don't they?
On October 10, 2001, CNN made a brief mention of a foiled terrorist bomb plot in the Mexican Parliament building. They promised to bring any further developments of this story to their viewers, but the incident was never heard of again in America. But the story appeared in bold headlines on the front page of the major Mexican newspapers (2) and was also posted on the official website of the Mexican Justice Department. (3) Two terror suspects were apprehended in the Mexican Chamber of Deputies. Caught red-handed, they had in their possession a high powered gun, nine hand grenades, and C-4 plastic explosives (great stuff for demolishing buildings!) Within days, this blockbuster story not only disappeared from the Mexican press, but the Israelis were quietly released and deported! The two terrorists were Salvador Gerson Sunke and Sar ben Zui. Can you guess what their ethnicity was? Sunke was a Mexican jew and Zui was a colonel with the Israeli special forces (MOSSAD). (4)
The story in El Diario de Mexico went on to reveal that the Zionist terrorists had fake Pakistani passports on them. Can you say "false flag operation?" The probable motive of this particular botched terrorist operation was to involve oil rich Mexico in the "War on Terrorism". (The War on Israel's enemies would be a more accurate description). Mexico is no military power, but the psychological trauma of an "Arab" attack on Mexico would surely have induced Mexico to provide unlimited cheap oil to her American "protector". With cheap oil flowing to America at low prices from Mexico, the US could better afford to break off relations with the oil rich Arab states in general and Saudi Arabia in particular. That‘s why the planners chose 15 Saudi identities to steal for the 9-11 operation.
Many Mexicans expressed shock at the release of the two Israelis. But when you learn that Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Relations is a Zionist named Jorge Gutman, it's not surprising! The Zionist tentacles reach even into Mexico! La Voz de Aztlan (Mexican-American news service), in it's excellent investigative report revealed:
"La Voz de Aztlan has learned that the Israeli Embassy used heavy handed measures to have the two Israelis released. Very high level emergency meetings took place between Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Jorge Gutman, General Macedo de la Concha and a top Ariel Sharon envoy who flew to Mexico City specially for that purpose. Elías Luf of the Israeli Embassy worked night and day and their official spokeswoman Hila Engelhart went into high gear after many hours of complete silence. What went on during those high level meetings no one knows, but many in Mexico are in disbelief at their release." (5)
In November of 2001, 6 more suspicious Israelis were detained in an unspecified mid-eastern state. They had in their possession box cutters, oil pipeline plans, and nuclear power plant plans. (6) The local police called in the Feds and Immigration officials took over the scene and released the men without calling the FBI. The Jerusalem Post, the Miami Herald, (7) and the Times of London (8) all carried this amazing story and all revealed how furious FBI officials were that these terror suspects with nuclear power plant plans were allowed to go free. Of course, the corruption riddled FBI would only have caved into Zionist pressure from the Justice Department’s Criminal Division boss, Michael Chertoff, and also from the ADL’s “partner”, FBI boss Robert Mueller - who would no doubt have found a way to eventually release those Israeli terror suspects too.
In December, 2001, the Los Angeles Times published the story of how two jewish terrorists were arrested by the FBI for plotting to blow up the office of US Congressman of Arab descent - Darrell Issa (R-CA), and a California mosque. (9) Irv Rubin and Earl Kruger of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) were charged with conspiracy to destroy a building by means of explosives. This story got brief national coverage but quickly disappeared too. These Zionists sure love blowing up buildings and killing innocent people don't they?
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Note that when I posted links to Ostrovsky and Beit-Hallahmi who have written of Israeli spies and terrorism, none of the right wingers on this forum bother to look them up or to offer any valid counterpoint.
Al Qaeda makes their plans known to reach out to those who are disenfranchised and susceptible to hairbrained ideas. Why do you think they sent videos to Al Jazeera, and now they are broadcasting them on the internet? Why is it so easy to believe that governments etc. can be so evil, but poor people living in a rough area of the world cannot?
It's a good bet that some Islamophobe will now play the anti-Semite card but will not offer a shred of proof to the contrary ...
PNAC broadcasted its plans all throughout the Internet. And when somebody quotes them you hear nonsense such as "conspiracist", "tin hat foil", "loony leftist". Over 655,000 have died in Iraq because of that organized terrorism but we do not hear any objection from the right wingers here. Instead, they defend the neoKKKons and act as if they are ever so innocent.