Age discrimination

[#juan]

A few things about seniors:

Seniors probably don't throw yell and things at each another in the movie theatre.

Seniors likely don't stick their damn gum on the underside of their seats.

Seniors don't pour their drinks on the floor

Seniors don't carve their initials on the furniture

Seniors walk into the theatre on time, and sit down and watch the movie.......they don't make three or four trips to the consession counter/bathroom/etc, forcing everyone to let them by five times during the movie.

Theatre owners, restaurant owners, bus companies, all benefit from the patronage of seniors. Any discounts are well justified.

 

[Zzarchov]

A few things about seniors:

Seniors probably don't throw yell and things at each another in the movie theatre.

Yes they do, they talk REALLY FRICKING LOUD cause their hearing aides need turned out. I always move away from seniors who sit near me, they always "loud whisper" their thoughts on the movie. No biggy, everyone whispers and inside joke to their friends, but this is REALLY loud.

Seniors likely don't stick their damn gum on the underside of their seats.

Yes they do, about as much as anyone else. Laziness is not a criteria of youth.

Seniors don't pour their drinks on the floor

No, but they spill them far more often. Few intentionally pour drinks out. One of the problems of lowered dexterity and age (as well as many diseases, which while sad, still make a mess)

Seniors don't carve their initials on the furniture

Got me there, but most people don't period. I've never seen a 30 year old do that, nor a 45.

Seniors walk into the theatre on time, and sit down and watch the movie.......they don't make three or four trips to the consession counter/bathroom/etc, forcing everyone to let them by five times during the movie.

Absolute baloney, Seniors CONSTANTLY walk back and forth to the washroom, don't get me wrong, im glad they do rather than the alternative, but age often equals weaker bladders.

Theatre owners, restaurant owners, bus companies, all benefit from the patronage of seniors. Any discounts are well justified.

Bus companies are publically funded for starters, and are used far more by the young, as for the rest, it may be good business, but so would gender discounts, and so would cultural discounts in some areas. Doesn't mean its ok.

 

[Twila]

Show respect to seniors. Giving discounts is a great way of showing just how much we appreciate what they've done.

 

[#juan]

Zzarchov

My post above, like the topic, was meant to be somewhat tongue in cheek. I know you just have to "win" an argument at all costs but try to restrain yourself . It's not a contest.

 

[Dreadful Nonsense]

There are a vast amount of very poor seniors.Even if the stats say other wise. Can't understand the chart but I see poor seniors everywhere.
Some are suffering due to it.
In a lot of cases it's just hard luck.

On the other hand.
Do you think someone with assests of 2 million dollars should still get Canada pension?

 

[Twila]

Do you think someone with assests of 2 million dollars should still get Canada pension?

If you buy RRSP's and have 2 million dollars should you be allowed to cash them in? CPP is paid for by the employee and the employer. It's not a freeby from the gov't

 

[Dreadful Nonsense]

If you buy RRSP's and have 2 million dollars should you be allowed to cash them in? CPP is paid for by the employee and the employer. It's not a freeby from the gov't

It depends on how much income you make. If you are at the poverty line it gets paid for you.Everyone gets CPP, although if you are really low income you get only the basic.
Maybe i'm thinking about some other thing....me mum gets two deals and is subsidised...

 

[#juan]

Would we call this "age discrimination"

http://tinyurl.com/2e3nb5

 

[Zzarchov]

Zzarchov

My post above, like the topic, was meant to be somewhat tongue in cheek. I know you just have to "win" an argument at all costs but try to restrain yourself . It's not a contest.

Age discrimination is a big problem, "Tongue in cheek" is not a good idea for sensitive subjects. If you must be tongue in cheek, self depreciation goes alot smoother.



I also see no reason to grant some magic respect for seniors based on living long. The latest batch of approaching seniors (boomers) if anything should be scolded for the derailment of everything the generation before them set in motion (often the things we most brag about).

We went from moon landings and the invention of the internet in the pre-boomer days, to a big lull where all we do is focus on creature comforts, luxury items, asset stripping rather than wealth creation, massive amounts of debt, and more research into age defying and other cosmetic treatments than to whiping out major diseases.

So what is there to be grateful for? Working all those years? Big deal, everyone before you had to do that and everyone after you will have to work far harder to pay for your mistakes. If you really feel bad, feel free to retire, those of us who lack the opportunities to advance you had (as you create bottleneck by not retiring) would absolutely love it.

I don't doubt there are many poor seniors, but there are many more poor young people, you see them all the time too, you just ignore them.

 

[Pangloss]

Show respect to seniors. Giving discounts is a great way of showing just how much we appreciate what they've done.

Twila:

I had a couple of really lousy and mean grade school teachers - can I make sure they pay double for everything?:smile:

Pangloss

 

[Pangloss]

Zzarchov:

I pretty much agree with the logic of your last post, but who are you to say who anyone ignores? That's pretty arrogant of you, Zzarch.

I see plenty of homeless, and they seem to be mostly 45+ years old. I could be wrong. Calgary could also have different homeless demographics.

But really - seniors discounts? Who, exactly, does it hurt? Who is compelled to offer it?

Much ado about nothing, I'd say.

Pangloss

 

[Zzarchov]

Ignoring the poor is far from an arrogant thought, especially the poor young.

But, If 10 people can honestly PM me the name of the person who served them coffee today (they wear name tags and talk directly to you) I will post an apology. I realise they aren't guaranteed to be a poor person, many are going through college, many more I know who work there are just stuck there because its the best job available, even if they have higher education.

So if you can name the person who gave you your burger, or your coffee or sub today, let me know. Be honest though.

 

[Twila]

Twila:

I had a couple of really lousy and mean grade school teachers - can I make sure they pay double for everything?

Pangloss

ah, revenge is a dish best served cold......

 

[Pangloss]

Ignoring the poor is far from an arrogant thought, especially the poor young.

But, If 10 people can honestly PM me the name of the person who served them coffee today (they wear name tags and talk directly to you) I will post an apology. I realise they aren't guaranteed to be a poor person, many are going through college, many more I know who work there are just stuck there because its the best job available, even if they have higher education.

So if you can name the person who gave you your burger, or your coffee or sub today, let me know. Be honest though.

Zzarchov -

That isn't what you wrote: you accused someone else of ignoring the young poor.

"I don't doubt there are many poor seniors, but there are many more poor young people, you see them all the time too, you just ignore them."

That was the arrogant thing - to assume you know what someone else is thinking.

Second - I only got out twice today, once to get my eyes examined - Jerry*, receptionist, and Derek, eye doc, and then to my local store for laundry detergent - Corrina, who lives two blocks from me, was my clerk.

Doesn't matter though - retail experiences are designed to be fast and impersonal, to maximize profits, so we are disencouraged to learn our server's names. Plus - it is the height of trivia to remember personal details of someone I met for less than a minute and will never see again.

So, your point is woefully off-topic.

Pangloss

* Her daughter broke her back recently. I lent her all my books on tape I use when touring as a roadie. How's that for ignoring the people I deal with?

-p

 

[Zzarchov]

No its not, I addressed that. I don't think its an arrogant thought to assume most others ignore the young poor they see every day.

I put out a specific challenge you quoted and even responded to you. Your quite off your game today.

 

[MikeyDB]

Ignoring the poor is far from an arrogant thought, especially the poor young.

But, If 10 people can honestly PM me the name of the person who served them coffee today (they wear name tags and talk directly to you) I will post an apology. I realise they aren't guaranteed to be a poor person, many are going through college, many more I know who work there are just stuck there because its the best job available, even if they have higher education.

So if you can name the person who gave you your burger, or your coffee or sub today, let me know. Be honest though.

I can't afford to go to Tim Hortons or any restaurant for that matter. For the disabled elderly that I'm a contibutor to as a demographic....I'd be willing to bet that the chances of an elderly person taking the time to read that name tag would be greater. The last time I was in Harvey's...when a friend bought me an order of fries, I read the name tags of everyone I met who was serving me or taking my money or doing anything behind the counter. I speak to them using their name....as in "No Joel no pickles or onions thanks..."

The elderly bashers who think is so grossly unfair that a senior gets a 2.50 break at the movie theater can kiss my ass. When talkies were first shown in theaters, it was a nickel to get into see a movie. When color was projected on the screen, it cost far less to go to a movie than it does now.

Partly that's because Arnold Shwartzennegger his governorship from California needed to make an income comparable to the Queen of Catsup who he married....

Partly because the sophistication of the average movie goer today isn't satisfied with "plot" and "dialogue" there has to be fifty people killed violently in the first fifteen minutes...to hold their attention...

It takes all the magic of computer aided graphics and "surround sound"....plenty of gratuitious violence and tons of sex and rock and roll to make a movie that the limp minded movie goer of today can summon the patience to sit through....

If you want to blame somone....which seems the pulse of these kinds of bitching and whining...look at the world that's been created by the hunger for fame and wealth that drives the movie industry and everything else for that matter.

"Boomers" are to blame just as every previous generation is to blame for the shortfall in ethics morals and the day to day flim-flam of postmodernity.

Blaming the elderly is really really easy...... continue I find it soooooooo entertaining.

 

[Walter]

Partly that's because Arnold Shwartzennegger his governorship from California needed to make an income comparable to the Queen of Catsup who he married....

Schwartznegger actually married into the Kennedy clan. It's John Kerry who married the Queen of Catsup, some broad with the last name of Heinz.

 

[MikeyDB]

Sorry....thanks for the heads up Walt....

 

[DurkaDurka]

I don't see the problem with giving the elderly a break, they have done their share, let them enjoy free coffees and discounted bus rided in their golden years... As long as they know we will use them as fuel for the matrix at any given moment.

 

[Pangloss]

No its not, I addressed that. I don't think its an arrogant thought to assume most others ignore the young poor they see every day.

I put out a specific challenge you quoted and even responded to you. Your quite off your game today.

Not so, Zzarchov - the arrogance is presuming to know the mind of another. My game is razor sharp, me bucko. The assumption itself was the arrogance.

Pangloss