Afghanistan: a war that can't be won
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MikeyDB wrote:
I reflect the times in which I live ITN and during these times the champion aggressor of the world has been the United States of America. As I've said before and in light of the hearings being held currently in the US focusing on the abuse of presidential power by George Bush, America has the potential to awake from its slumber and understand why a once great nation hailed as the land of promise is now the most hated nation on the planet.
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Zeitgeist ---- never more unwittingly and accurately
defined.
I reflect the times in which I live ITN and during these times the champion aggressor of the world has been the United States of America. As I've said before and in light of the hearings being held currently in the US focusing on the abuse of presidential power by George Bush, America has the potential to awake from its slumber and understand why a once great nation hailed as the land of promise is now the most hated nation on the planet.
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Zeitgeist ---- never more unwittingly and accurately
defined.
ITN
I'm hardly surprised that you don't "know what I'm talking about".
America and most predominantly "Jesusland" is all about proscecuting another crusade to hide the fact that it's really the "carry a big stick" mentality that's working to the benefit of the hoodlums you call a government.
Since nothing's changed can we agree therefore that evolution is a dead issue as far as America is concerned?
I'm hardly surprised that you don't "know what I'm talking about".
America and most predominantly "Jesusland" is all about proscecuting another crusade to hide the fact that it's really the "carry a big stick" mentality that's working to the benefit of the hoodlums you call a government.
Since nothing's changed can we agree therefore that evolution is a dead issue as far as America is concerned?
MikeyDB, you're a creature of the headlines, and
so you have no idea what the people in United States
really believe.
so you have no idea what the people in United States
really believe.
Re: RE: Afghanistan: a war that can't be won
Get what Kreskin? Your point of view? Elaborate what we don't "get" exactly.
Kreskin said:
Get what Kreskin? Your point of view? Elaborate what we don't "get" exactly.
Jimmoyer
Headlines? Headlines? have you got corduroy pillowcases JIm?
I've got twelve feet of bookcase shelf devoted to world politics, anthropology and political science. I hardly need to rely on the sculpted "all the news thats fit to print" or CNN and Fox psychobabble to reach my conclusions. But hey Jim if the limit to your depth is newspaper reports and you believe that everyone else buys that crap too, your position is understandable.
Headlines? Headlines? have you got corduroy pillowcases JIm?
I've got twelve feet of bookcase shelf devoted to world politics, anthropology and political science. I hardly need to rely on the sculpted "all the news thats fit to print" or CNN and Fox psychobabble to reach my conclusions. But hey Jim if the limit to your depth is newspaper reports and you believe that everyone else buys that crap too, your position is understandable.
Re: RE: Afghanistan: a war that can't be won
Ooooo, I just love that response, who has the bigger dick...uhm...bookcase filled with books. How many of those books have anything to do with a balanced approach? How many books have you read that actually have an opposing view that doesn't feed your bias? I bet very little if none at all.
MikeyDB said:
Ooooo, I just love that response, who has the bigger dick...uhm...bookcase filled with books. How many of those books have anything to do with a balanced approach? How many books have you read that actually have an opposing view that doesn't feed your bias? I bet very little if none at all.
Wonderful contribution ITN
Let's everyone understand where your thinking is.
HINT: You can get help for your deep seated feelings of inadequacy...
That's the only rationale I could provide in explaining why you insist on reducing everything to personal innuendo and feel compelled to entertain folk with your prejudices...
Let's everyone understand where your thinking is.
HINT: You can get help for your deep seated feelings of inadequacy...
That's the only rationale I could provide in explaining why you insist on reducing everything to personal innuendo and feel compelled to entertain folk with your prejudices...
corduroy pillowcases ????
Every once in a while I wake up with wrinkled pillow
case lines on my face mixed with a little drool that
escaped my mouth in the night, but corduroy pillowcases ???
Was ist das ?
But truly when you MikeyDB said you are "reflection
of your times", no words were truly said better to
describe the myopic bubble that defines many a
Zeitgeist to come along.
Every once in a while I wake up with wrinkled pillow
case lines on my face mixed with a little drool that
escaped my mouth in the night, but corduroy pillowcases ???
Was ist das ?
But truly when you MikeyDB said you are "reflection
of your times", no words were truly said better to
describe the myopic bubble that defines many a
Zeitgeist to come along.
Re: RE: Afghanistan: a war that can't be won
Like I said, only books that feed your bias. As I mentioned earlier, you're part of the problem, not the solution. You're just as extremist as everybody else on the fringe left. There is no compromise, there is no understanding opposing views, there is only an absolute resolution, you are in fact, like our asshole President, seeing things black and white, with us or against us.
MikeyDB said:
Like I said, only books that feed your bias. As I mentioned earlier, you're part of the problem, not the solution. You're just as extremist as everybody else on the fringe left. There is no compromise, there is no understanding opposing views, there is only an absolute resolution, you are in fact, like our asshole President, seeing things black and white, with us or against us.
ITN
Just to please you I scanned a few book reviews and commentaries on the back cover and inside forewords contained in a few books and what I found was that the majority of these reviews by The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, Newsweek and so on, all use the word "balanced"...but I know you'll dismiss anything that doesn't have the right-wing fringe seal of approval.
Just to please you I scanned a few book reviews and commentaries on the back cover and inside forewords contained in a few books and what I found was that the majority of these reviews by The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, Newsweek and so on, all use the word "balanced"...but I know you'll dismiss anything that doesn't have the right-wing fringe seal of approval.
Jimmoyer
Had I been around when Rome was slaughtering folk or when the British Empire was promoting slavery and commiting genocide in half a dozen places around the world...or the French or the Spanish....you see Jim I'm absolutely certain that the "bubble" I live in today is a much larger bubble than ever before. and so yes I am focused on the time in which I live because I can't change history but I might be able to plant the seed of inquiry in minds that aren't closed.....
I understand Jim your's is closed, but it's nice you take the time to dabble in the dynamics of the "bubble" in which you happen to live as well my friend...
Had I been around when Rome was slaughtering folk or when the British Empire was promoting slavery and commiting genocide in half a dozen places around the world...or the French or the Spanish....you see Jim I'm absolutely certain that the "bubble" I live in today is a much larger bubble than ever before. and so yes I am focused on the time in which I live because I can't change history but I might be able to plant the seed of inquiry in minds that aren't closed.....
I understand Jim your's is closed, but it's nice you take the time to dabble in the dynamics of the "bubble" in which you happen to live as well my friend...
See MikeyDB, you jump to conclusions. I read The New York Times, and alot of what is in my bookcase is endorsed by The New York Times, I also attend book reviews at least once or twice a month depending on my schedule.
Chomsky was someone I looked up to, a man of morals, of conviction, of ideals and principles, a true American in my view. Until I found out his a hypocrite. I have many other authors that are left leaning. But why should I limit myself? Well after I turned 25 I realized these authors were not the end to all things good.
There is more to the world than the fringe left and right, both sides are weakening, it's about time some common sense took hold. Speaking of which you should read Thomas Paine, if you haven't already.
Chomsky was someone I looked up to, a man of morals, of conviction, of ideals and principles, a true American in my view. Until I found out his a hypocrite. I have many other authors that are left leaning. But why should I limit myself? Well after I turned 25 I realized these authors were not the end to all things good.
There is more to the world than the fringe left and right, both sides are weakening, it's about time some common sense took hold. Speaking of which you should read Thomas Paine, if you haven't already.
corduroy pillowcases ???
MikeyDB, everyone thought the world was flat at
one time too.
Be a little more unique and eclectic sometimes
instead of just a reflection of the times, eh?
You got promise, especially because of that
corduroy pillowcases remark.
MikeyDB, everyone thought the world was flat at
one time too.
Be a little more unique and eclectic sometimes
instead of just a reflection of the times, eh?
You got promise, especially because of that
corduroy pillowcases remark.
Re: RE: Afghanistan: a war that can't be won
Your inflexibility to all "truths" is the problem. Yep you are part of the problem.
MikeyDB said:
Your inflexibility to all "truths" is the problem. Yep you are part of the problem.
ITN
I've only read a little of Thomas Paine but I'd agree with the idea that more information, a sharing of perspectives and indeed a broader overview of just about any controversial issue is medicine to a narrow worldview.
At the risk of inviting futher deprecation and insult, I'll risk saying that I think you've a reasonable overview of what's going on in the world and you strike me as an intelligent kinda guy. Just too bad that instead of merely takling about these kinds of issues that there wasn't something that could bring resolve to these things through action.
I don't think Canada should be involved in Afghanistan and I'm fearful that the current Canadian circus in Ottawa is comprised of folk unable to differentiate among the various dynamics and is hopelessly but willingly bound to the principles of "economics" before all else. Certainly a nation must compete and establish mechanisms and practices that will permit (afford) change. Do you think we might agree that any extreme is poor thinking and the more prudent course is considered introspection?
I've only read a little of Thomas Paine but I'd agree with the idea that more information, a sharing of perspectives and indeed a broader overview of just about any controversial issue is medicine to a narrow worldview.
At the risk of inviting futher deprecation and insult, I'll risk saying that I think you've a reasonable overview of what's going on in the world and you strike me as an intelligent kinda guy. Just too bad that instead of merely takling about these kinds of issues that there wasn't something that could bring resolve to these things through action.
I don't think Canada should be involved in Afghanistan and I'm fearful that the current Canadian circus in Ottawa is comprised of folk unable to differentiate among the various dynamics and is hopelessly but willingly bound to the principles of "economics" before all else. Certainly a nation must compete and establish mechanisms and practices that will permit (afford) change. Do you think we might agree that any extreme is poor thinking and the more prudent course is considered introspection?
So, maybe you care more about Dafur than Afghanistan ?
Or maybe you care little for either ?
Maybe Canadians oughta just stay home.
Or maybe you care little for either ?
Maybe Canadians oughta just stay home.
Jimmoyer
I'm like totally against da fur, and the seal hunt should be stopped....
Just pulling yur leg dude.
Darfur demands examination but I fear we've become so sensitive to many things that our better judgment is sacrificed to expediency.
So many of these nations have internal wars and power-plays going on that I think we'd be well advised to exercise great caution in throwing support behind one faction or the other and instead work to help the sick poor and homeless in some way that doesn't feed into the liklihood that rebels or criminals can steal this aide and use it as yet another tool for oppression. No easy answers of course but turning away from the heartbreaks won't provide a solution either.
I'm like totally against da fur, and the seal hunt should be stopped....
Just pulling yur leg dude.
Darfur demands examination but I fear we've become so sensitive to many things that our better judgment is sacrificed to expediency.
So many of these nations have internal wars and power-plays going on that I think we'd be well advised to exercise great caution in throwing support behind one faction or the other and instead work to help the sick poor and homeless in some way that doesn't feed into the liklihood that rebels or criminals can steal this aide and use it as yet another tool for oppression. No easy answers of course but turning away from the heartbreaks won't provide a solution either.