Aboriginal Education in Canada

Johnnny

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Those who wanted to pursue higher education had an easier time than most of the non-natives, but there wasn't as much interest in getting to that point. This seems to be more the real issue to me: getting the kids to stay in school and go on to university or even just to trade school, and its not a situation unique to natives, although (speaking from my limited experience and anecdotal evidence related to me across northern Alberta) it seems to hit them harder. And with some of the Alberta bands, the kids who had "treaty status" had less impetus to drive them to further education because of the royalty payouts from the energy industry, which is within their rights, but short-sighted, because those royalties won't last forever

In my opinion thats the problem too, The majority of natives i know would rather drop out and do **** all. They know the mining industry is going to give them courses and training to work in the industry.(Training most natives think is better than a school education) They would rather wait for the mining industry to give them jobs. In my opinion alot of the problems with natives is at the household, When your raised to have no responsibility, your going to fail.... Most arent properly raised by their parents. 85% of natives feel hat they are entitled to something and i noticed in my opinion that negativily affects their motiviation and ambition.

So in the end when you know your entitled to a job because your native, i can see there isnt much reason to go to school or let alone stay in school. But hey thats ok, im glad ive had to work for everything in my life and im not suffering from some foolish sense of entitlement. That and my family doesnt marry 2nd cousins, which might help also.

If their not helping themselves why should we ? Lets spend this money on immigrants that come here to actually be something for the worth of our contry!!

Im tired of listening to Natives who complain about having to work under a white person. They never stop to think that mabye that white person went to school and became qualified to do the job hes there to do.
 
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CDNBear

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While I support Kenneth Deers assertion that education is paramount to young aboriginal people, I do have a question.

Who pays for APTN?
The same people that pay for the CBC.

That's right, can't be giving the Libs credit for anything.
No we can't.

This statement requires that the issue of "what is owed" to be defined in order for it to have any force.
It has been defined.

and this has what to do with aboriginal education in Canada and the bullshyte comments made by Mr. Deer concerning assimilation?
They were bullsh!t?

of course, idiots like deer, will blame the feds and the provinces for all of it.
Who else do you blame for a $2000/student deficit, for First nations students out side regional/municipal education catchment areas?

Martin did say the provinces and municipalites were doing much more to address the problem than the Feds. :smile:
Of course they are. Every time they throw a buck at the First Nations, they get ten in return from the Feds.

Not too long ago aboriginals got much much less from taxpayers, if this unlimited liabiltiy can go up, it can go down too.
Ya, it's called getting ripped off.

Plus, nothing lasts forever in this world.
It does when you have internationally recognized contracts.

This unlimited liabiltiy fo taxpayers, which depends on nature, yet they're sovereign.
Ya.

Sovereign, yet others must pay their bills.
Ya, because that's how the contract was written.

It's generally not how sovereignty is defined in most parts of the world.
You should ask American protectorates about that.

I just want to mention that I am beaming since Gerry admitted he was wrong and apologized. :)
I thought you said you weren't going to rub it in?
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Here's news people might be able to use, international contracts are broken all the time, they are called independence movements and other things. But since lawyers figured out social justice means billions of dollars can be delivered to "soveriegn" nations for a modest fee, we won't be hearing about any of that in the future. They got a franchise going. A lot of empty words are being hurled around, what's important is that the cash keeps on flowing like those poetic rivers. Gotta love it.
 

CDNBear

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Here's news people might be able to use, international contracts are broken all the time, they are called independence movements and other things.
Other things, like illegal. And those who break them face consequences. Duh!

But since lawyers figured out social justice means billions of dollars can be delivered to "soveriegn" nations for a modest fee, we won't be hearing about any of that in the future.
Of course not. Because only idiots talk about breaking contracts. Because when you do, your house or car gets repo'd. Your business gets sued and goes under. You end up spending millions/billions more then you would have if you didn't break them. You end up at war.

Is the latter what you're looking for dumpster?

I realized how difficult things like commonsense are for the insipid and stupid to understand. But that's how it works when you break legally binding contracts.

They got a franchise going.
No they don't. You need to learn what the definition of franchise is.

A lot of empty words are being hurled around...
All from idiots that think breaking legally binding contracts is a good idea.

Gotta love it.
I do, you're as entertaining as hell.