ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?

spilledthebeer

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And whose pensions and investment funds own 90% that?




YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What petros said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



MHz claims five companies own 80 percent of all the stocks...........................................


yet he DOES NOT MENTION WHO THOSE COMPANIES REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OSSTF - our Ontari-owe high school teachers own the LARGEST PRIVATELY operated pension fund in all of North America!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OMERS- the Ontari-owe Municipal Employees pension fund is in the top five!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the Quebec Municipal employees are in the top ten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently MHz THINKS that our civil service union HOGS...........................


are all distant relations of the Rothschild family.......................................


and that the HOGS are all JEWS as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What a Maroon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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If he does, then we are worse idiots than the Americans are being accused of being!




TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our ONLY HOPE..................................


is with Scheer.................................


Kenney..........................................


Ford..........................................


and their allies.......................................


such as Bernier and Legault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In other news.............................


Kelly Leitch COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All is forgiven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hoid

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everyone is mean to Alberta

they'll be sorry when Alberta runs away

you'll all see
 

MHz

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What was Sheer doing in the years Harper and the Cons could have reeled in SNC? (2005-2015)




The maps tells the story, if the Provinces each had 1 vote instead if the east having 50% and the populated centers of BC,CA, and SK making up the next 25. A map showing the wealth would mirror that, I can see why 70 years brought zero change
 

MHz

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Close, buffer zone between middle class and Reserve and Lab-rat quality of life.








CAExit would be along those same lines, the ones closest to the US border make the most so they can go to the US and the people to the north can shop in the EU or Asia.

AB,SK,MA (heartland) could let the populated places go to lower Canada. The raw goods already go south and any new markets would first need a customer as well as a way to get the materials to an all weather port on each ocean The cold is stronger than the military in the north and every packs and has a way to record and send real-time.

Alaska Panhandle to Dawson Creek to Lake Winnipeg to James Bay to Labarador. Speed limit , 'Whoosh' for 'mag-lev light-rail people/letters and 'chug' for the heavy-rail as the bow-wave it creates will take out the port when speeds above 30 kph are reached, 3kph is the recommended exit speed.



Buy the light rail company that is going bust for scrap and replace the wheels with tracks, 3 or 4 sets per engine. (two sets at either end of a tank would eliminate the wobble when a tank comes to a skidding halt. 2 sets of tracks at each end has a lot of pluses)
If each car has electric motors the balance could be adjusted as well as the torgue is spread out along the rail system that is floating. In the winter high speed is possible once the ice is a certain depth. 4ft is min dept at slow speeds, add ice and carve it to highway specs and those same tracks can run at a higher speed as well as having 6 or more all in the same convoy. Raw goods south and west and consumer goods in from west and east and the south is too busy supply their own to add new customers until 2120AD.
The energy the people need is NG and the lines that ship the bulk of it south would keep doing that and the lines would be in good repair as that is what fuel they use to remain part of the 21st century.
That would leave the north enough flat land to grow grain for local consumption only and no extra for export even to 'lower Cantada' from 'Uppity Canatada'. They would still be able to export at the same levels as today and the last 7 decades through the same export facilities.
'Polar Ice' from Hudson Bay would be an export that is available as we speak.
Also 'bulk peat moss' as 'a compressed dry good' or as a 'semi solid mixed with 'sterile fresh water' in a frozen form at the customers specified percentage.

Part of the R&D needed to live in an 'off-grid' would include supplying the clothes you need and at the moment flax and hemp are the two best option with hemp being the long term winner if it can be coaxed into growing along every right of way opened up all by itself
 

Curious Cdn

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His Canada includes separatist Quebec.
Quebec is mostly not separatiste nor has it ever been a majority view, there nor is it in Alberta. Fringe wierdos and political outsiders form the Alberta separatists movement.
 

JLM

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Quebec is mostly not separatiste nor has it ever been a majority view, there nor is it in Alberta. Fringe wierdos and political outsiders form the Alberta separatists movement.


"United we stand, divided we fall", seems like a simple concept that anyone with an I.Q. above 5 would understand!
 

MHz

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I'm not sure how much sympathy AB has for bureaucraps and drones!
What is our track record so far? I would be willing to buy a right of way across the flat land between Dawson Creek and the very north of BC. Nobody else would need to be bribed.

200 year lease with oil and gas being excluded and water in the form of ice and peat being exportable items.(Mexico being the first customers)

AB is more honest than the East, that is where the implosion will begin. When the people leave they will have to use military law to keep power there.
AB cannot break away so why try, we can make some demands known, such as how the south intends to supply the north with 2x or 3x the level of goods that makes it there currently, when the lines are even operating. Finance it ($7B) through the World Bank as it can be an international development project. (royalties from goods shipped to the US) I would bet the protests of a few Indians would be as noticeable as a fart 10 km downwind in a blizzard.
 

MHz

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Quebec is mostly not separatiste nor has it ever been a majority view, there nor is it in Alberta. Fringe wierdos and political outsiders form the Alberta separatists movement.
If Alberta was a hot potato it would have been an issue back in the closing days of Harper. What the present day soap opera is being used for is to hide that both Federal Political Parties bungled SNC and the one thing they are fully united on is to keep the Government Hospitals story buried even deeper than the Residential Schools story has been.

Welcome to the real Canada.
 

Curious Cdn

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If Alberta was a hot potato it would have been an issue back in the closing days of Harper. What the present day soap opera is being used for is to hide that both Federal Political Parties bungled SNC and the one thing they are fully united on is to keep the Government Hospitals story buried even deeper than the Residential Schools story has been.
Welcome to the real Canada.
Alberta was a hot potato in Harper's time because that was his power base .... the old Reform Party thing. When the government no longer had to kowtow to jerkwater MPs from the Alberta boondocks to stay in power, the province's influence plummeted.
 

MHz

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Nobody from AB voted for Manning or his gang after they decided the pension wasn't really 'abusing the people of Canada'.
Our worst is Ottawa's best?? That should be a motto for our traitors.


http://www.aberhartfoundation.ca/PD...t of Canada Docs/CanWithoutConst_Kuhl1977.pdf
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MHz

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Why, are you a western separatist?
Until the next World War that the UK starts but can't finish and then East and West are both in foxholes on the front line.
Pay the WB $10B to keep $7B out of Ottawa's grasp, you bet, take as much land as we can rather than the smallest, that would be all of the north 100,000 people and $100T in minerals
 

captain morgan

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Alberta was a hot potato in Harper's time because that was his power base .... the old Reform Party thing. When the government no longer had to kowtow to jerkwater MPs from the Alberta boondocks to stay in power, the province's influence plummeted.


Au contraire mon frere, AB's influence is strongly expressed in the income that it generates for the ROC.


Thanks to your buddies in Ottawa and the misguided notion of regional influence without any recognition of financial contributions, it will be regions that have the resource bases that will hold the cards and it has become clear that the only way to exist is by removing oneself from the regions that live in their respective unrealistic fantasies.
 

Curious Cdn

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Au contraire mon frere, AB's influence is strongly expressed in the income that it generates for the ROC.
Thanks to your buddies in Ottawa and the misguided notion of regional influence without any recognition of financial contributions, it will be regions that have the resource bases that will hold the cards and it has become clear that the only way to exist is by removing oneself from the regions that live in their respective unrealistic fantasies.
It's down precipitously this year, yet Eastern Canada is chugging along quite merrily. Perhaps, it is a far lesser deal than the propagandists out in Alberta would like us to believe.