Abdullah Khadr back in court March 16th

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Jersay

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TORONTO (CP) - A Canadian facing charges in the United States for allegedly plotting to kill Americans will return to court in two weeks.

Abdullah Khadr appeared in a Toronto court today before he was remanded into custody until March 16. The federal justice minister has until then to consider whether to proceed with extradition. The 24-year-old has been in jail since his arrest in Toronto in December on an American warrant.

He has not yet had a chance to respond to the allegations.

If extradited, Khadr would face charges including conspiring to kill Americans abroad and conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction.

He faces a maximum sentence of life plus 30 years if convicted and a fine of $1 million US.

An RCMP affidavit alleges that while Khadr was in a Pakistani jail, he told U.S. investigators he bought weapons for al-Qaida and admitted to taking part in a plan to assassinate Pakistan's prime minister.

Khadr has admitted to attending an al-Qaida military training camp in Afghanistan for two weeks, but said he was only 13 at the time and that it didn't have links to terrorism.

http://start.shaw.ca/start/enCA/News/NationalNewsArticle.htm?src=n030119A.xml
 
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Doryman

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Re: RE: Abdullah Khadr back in court March 16th

He deserves a trial, then a boot out of the country, that I agree with. You'd think he'd have his citizenship revoked after attending Al-Qaeda training camps anyway, wouldn't you?
 
Mogz

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We should wait to see whether or not Mr. Khadr is convicted of these crimes before jumping to any conclusions, in my opinion.
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Considering his whole family are al-qaeda sympathizers, a trial is merely formality. The man is a waste of air, as is his entire family...which we still let live in this Country, something which boggles my mind.
 
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PoisonPete2

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we should protect Canadian citizens from the war mongering americans. We should move to have Bush tried for war crimes. Get some perspective on who is really evil.
 
Mogz

Mogz

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Poison, do you know what the word "cliche" means? That said, I really don't see much danger coming from South of the border. Considering the U.S. and Canada are allies and all....<mod note:small deletion: please don't use personal attacks to make your point>.
 
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Jay

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Re: RE: Abdullah Khadr back in court March 16th

Mogz said:
We should wait to see whether or not Mr. Khadr is convicted of these crimes before jumping to any conclusions, in my opinion.
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Considering his whole family are al-qaeda sympathizers, a trial is merely formality. The man is a waste of air, as is his entire family...which we still let live in this Country, something which boggles my mind.
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But they deported Ernst Zundle....go figure.

Keep the terrorists but ditch the harmless little old man who doesn't tow histories "official" points of view.


Have you thanked a Liberal today?
 
Mogz

Mogz

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Zundel wasn't a "harmless old man". He was a hatemonger that doesn't belong in my Country. I have no time for anti-semites, bombastic arabs, separatists, and liberals. You can call me Mr. Conservative.
 
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PoisonPete2

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Mogz said:
Poison, do you know what the word "cliche" means? That said, I really don't see much danger coming from South of the border. Considering the U.S. and Canada are allies and all....then again I don't live in the bubble you do, and therefore aren't privy to your mental shortcomings.
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RESPONSE: Isn't strange how 'cliches' are self evident truth. And do avoid personal dispursion. It is very rude.
 
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Mogz said:
Zundel wasn't a "harmless old man". He was a hatemonger that doesn't belong in my Country. I have no time for anti-semites, bombastic arabs, separatists, and liberals. You can call me Mr. Conservative.
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Conservatives are supposed to understand the freedom of speech issues...I don't understand where you are coming from. Zundel is debating the official version of history (which has been subject to change), not training in terrorists camps and wishing for the destruction of the West, slamming planes into buildings causing nations to go to war.
 
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Mogz

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I do understand freedom of speech. However there comes a point when you cross the line between freemdom of speech and hatemongering. I have never claimed Zundel was a terrorist, nor have I ever said he was a physical threat. He was, however, a threat to our society, in a mental capacity. The holocaust is, in my opinion, the darkest period in human history. We stood by and let the Germans butcher over 6 million innocent people. We let it all happen, and as a result millions of lives filled with so much potential was snuffed out. I have no time for people who deny it ever happened just for the shock value or to spread hateful propogranda. Zundel wasn't a physical threat, but he was a mental one. Canadian society has no place for NAZIs, bigots, and racists. It's a good thing he's gone.
 
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Jay, the freedom of speech in Canada is subject to Sections 1 and 33 of the Constitutition Act, 1982 (thereby restricting speech by the hate propaganda measures in the Criminal Code of Canada, and the discretion of Parliament) — I quite frankly do not care what the freedom of speech standards are in other nations, but rather what works for Canada.

Everyone has the right to a fair trial, and Mr. Khadr is not an exception to this fundamental principle of Justice. Whether or not a majority of citizens in Canada think that he should be deemed guilty, does not mean that he is, nor that he should be convicted for having done so. We must wait for the result of whatever legal proceedings take place, including but not limited to the trial, and whatever appeals may take place in response to the ruling from the same.
 
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Re: RE: Abdullah Khadr back in court March 16th

FiveParadox said:
Jay, the freedom of speech in Canada is subject to Sections 1 and 33 of the Constitutition Act, 1982 (thereby restricting speech by the hate propaganda measures in the Criminal Code of Canada, and the discretion of Parliament) — I quite frankly do not care what the freedom of speech standards are in other nations, but rather what works for Canada.
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Liberals often don't care unless it suits their agenda, Five....I'm completely aware.

I say let's not wait till the new generation of knuckle dragging Liberals come out of the wood work to tell us they have further eroded political speech and freedom of the press before we really make up our minds about the truly insane efforts called "progressive". It is time to stop this lunacy in its tracks.

Freedom of political speech isn't debatable it is a right....just what do they teach in "public" school these days? "Fundamentals of giving up your rights 101"? Followed by second year..."Fundamentals of being ruled by the minority", followed by a third year of "how we destroyed the West"?



But all in all.....why do I get the impression your just the type of bureaucratic glass house dweller we need to tell us what hate propaganda is; what to say and what not to say?
 
FiveParadox

FiveParadox

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Integrity • Free Speech

I do not appreciate, Jay, your calling-into-question of my integrity and ethics; in my opinion, free speech is a right, but one which must, for the greater good, be sometimes exercised responsibly. As opposed to other nations, such as the United States, Canada was not constructed on the premise of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," but rather on a premise of "peace, order and good government."

Sections 1 and 33 of the latest manifestation of the Constitution Acts are further supported by the case of Russel v. Her Majesty the Queen, where the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council ruled that Parliament of Canada had the authority to legislate with respect to issues which could have been seen to violate certain aspects of the Constitution Acts, insofar as such measures were for the common or greater good — i.e., hate propaganda laws.
 
Jay

Jay

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So like driving in Ontario is a privilege, not a right, you believe free speech is a privilege and not a right.


"In the wilderness uncountable voices
earplugs for the birds and the animals
and blinders for your beast of burden, the will for learning
these books were made for burning "

Mathew Good

Remember when they used to accuse the right of being book burners, well at least the truth is now coming out...it isn't the right at all it is the left aka neo-communists.


If you people continue on your self righteous path, the Bible will be banned for its speech. We have already had members here call for it.
 
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