A new definition of magic?

ahmadabdalrhman

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I am simply dumb struck by your claims! I have never read anything so superstitious, ignorant and void of intellect in my life. Your thinking is straight out of the middle ages!

that good you don't believe In magic but that do not mean them not exist

In all city in my country we have center to strive the enchanters

the enchanters is the sickness


I don't know how to argue with someone who has missed 700 years of human social evolution... :-?

the magic In your country but what I doing If you do not know that ?

Do you believe in witches too?

what is that ?

when was magic just in the men ?

the person who more adore the evil jinn he have adminicle from evil jinn more
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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then what ?

I know like this video

but this is cheat thing

and black magic the other cheat

not the same thing the black magic from jinn

 

ahmadabdalrhman

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Do they live in bottles?

jinn live in bottles ? yup may In Hollywood

the video who I seen your he was the working on the smitten

and how stop that black magic ?

If you directness burnt that magic will work other magic

written In the paper the names from jinn and there blood

and photoed who smitten and there the codes

and no one can doing magic just adore the devil and he do services to the devil

that services is very horrific in Islam and the enchanter not muslim



 

karrie

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I absolutely agree and in fact there is good evidence to support what you're saying: Nastiest males' death changed troop's ways.

Except that that's a case of evolving into a more peaceful path, not out of one. Where was humanity's era of peace, love, harmony? Our time of mutual grooming? It seems to me that we've never ever had it as beav would assert. And perhaps we're not evolving into anything better and people still die brutally, kill horribly, etc., but, we certainly don't seem to have come out of anything better, at least not that lasted any significant length as anything more than a fluke.
 

darkbeaver

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Except that that's a case of evolving into a more peaceful path, not out of one. Where was humanity's era of peace, love, harmony? Our time of mutual grooming? It seems to me that we've never ever had it as beav would assert. And perhaps we're not evolving into anything better and people still die brutally, kill horribly, etc., but, we certainly don't seem to have come out of anything better, at least not that lasted any significant length as anything more than a fluke.

The old stories of the garden are quite widespread and they form the basis of human desire for the peace and perfection of tranquility and harmony. Do we only imagine and invent the good old days? I don't think so. Long ago we opened pandoras box, maybe the price for rationality is eternal angst. I for one refuse to entertain a future of ceaseless butchery and contempt, we will have that garden back or the mountains will burn and the seas will boil.
 

karrie

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The old stories of the garden are quite widespread and they form the basis of human desire for the peace and perfection of tranquility and harmony.

I'm with you on refusing to stop striving for better beaver, but, the stories of dragons and giants and goblins are widespread through humanity too. Demons like the the jinn are a prime example. This doesn't mean they are part of humanity's past. It merely means they are a common thread in our collective consciousness.
 

darkbeaver

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I'm with you on refusing to stop striving for better beaver, but, the stories of dragons and giants and goblins are widespread through humanity too. Demons like the the jinn are a prime example. This doesn't mean they are part of humanity's past. It merely means they are a common thread in our collective consciousness.

They all have their basis in reality, the stories are definately part of humanitys past those are the things that build collective consciousness Karrie and you must know that. Dragons are comets, gods are planets and stars, demons are asteroids we humans have witnessed celestial conflagrations and terrestrial devastation thousands upon thousands of times in the past, all that oral history is contained in us today and much of it is repeatable like clockwork we exist in the path of the transmission of power, ticktockticktockcrunch. It is a struggle not to be too quick to dismiss demons nor too full of selfesteem to consider my limits of awareness.
Even the oldest among us hope for a peaceful gentle transition. I think when we loose that we are truely in hell. have a pleasent day:smile:
 

karrie

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They all have their basis in reality, the stories are definately part of humanitys past those are the things that build collective consciousness Karrie and you must know that. Dragons are comets, gods are planets and stars, demons are asteroids we humans have witnessed celestial conflagrations and terrestrial devastation thousands upon thousands of times in the past, all that oral history is contained in us today and much of it is repeatable like clockwork we exist in the path of the transmission of power, ticktockticktockcrunch. It is a struggle not to be too quick to dismiss demons nor too full of selfesteem to consider my limits of awareness.
Even the oldest among us hope for a peaceful gentle transition. I think when we loose that we are truely in hell. have a pleasent day:smile:

well if the garden is a metaphorical representation of something else, I'd hazard to say that it's the womb, not an actual era of peace in humanity's history.
 

Scott Free

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jinn live in bottles ? yup may In Hollywood

the video who I seen your he was the working on the smitten

and how stop that black magic ?

If you directness burnt that magic will work other magic

written In the paper the names from jinn and there blood

and photoed who smitten and there the codes

and no one can doing magic just adore the devil and he do services to the devil

that services is very horrific in Islam and the enchanter not muslim

Magic, that is, supernatural powers do not exist. You can scribble in blood and mutter incoherently all you want but it isn't going to accomplish anything.

Do you burn Jinn at the stake? How do you kill them?
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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Magic, that is, supernatural powers do not exist. You can scribble in blood and mutter incoherently all you want but it isn't going to accomplish anything.

I not enchanter

but If you searching about black magic you will know It truth

but the enchanters liars quacks

the videos who you seen it after opening that Magic happen amazing things

was there people sickish and them recover after opening that black magic in wanting the god




Do you burn Jinn at the stake? How do you kill them?

“Undoubtedly the jinn can have a harmful effect on humans, and they could even kill them. They may harm a person by throwing stones at him, or by trying to terrify him, and other things that are proven in the Sunnah or indicated by real events

It is a well-known fact that jinn can take different forms such as human beings and animals, etc. An example of this is when Satan came to the unbelievers on the day of Badr (battle) in the image of Suraqah Ibn Malik .

If jinn takes such forms, man can kill him, as really happened during the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him). In Sahih Muslim, there is a long Hadith (Prophet's saying) which includes: … the man took his spear and went back to see his wife standing between the two doors.

Out of jealousy, he rushed to stab her with the spear. She said: 'keep your spear away from me and come in to see what forced me to get out.' He entered the house and found a huge snake coiled in the bed. He pierced it with the spear and got out of the house and planted the spear in the ground, with it twisting painfully on it. Then it was not quite clear which died first, the snake or the young man.

He then said: "We came to the Prophet (peace be upon him), told him about what had happened and asked him to supplicate to Allah that He may restore his life. He (peace be upon him) said: Ask forgiveness for your companion", then said: 'Verily there are jinn in the Madinah who embraced Islam, so if you see anyone of them warn him for three days and if he appears to you (after that period) kill him for he is a devil'.
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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How do you know that? How do you know Muhammad wasn't a bad Jinn?

what the bad In adoring the god who creating the earth and heaven and everything ?

and not I adoring anything other ?


even If If If prophet muhamad do not come before


nothing stopping me to adoring my god alone

the god who he the best from anything
 
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Scott Free

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what the bad In adoring the god who creating the earth and heaven and everything ?

and not I adoring anything other ?


even If If If prophet muhamad do not come before


nothing stopping me to adoring my god alone

the god who he the best from anything

So you admit you don't know if Muhammad was a Jinn or not but you know god isn't?

Yet the only way you know god is through the Qur'an. So you could be worshipping a Jinn and wouldn't know it.

Is it just a hopeful guess that guides you?
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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So you admit you don't know if Muhammad was a Jinn or not but you know god isn't?

no prophet muhammad was human the bad jinn need to people adoring him and do not adoring the god because from that bad jinn hate the quran


Yet the only way you know god is through the Qur'an. So you could be worshipping a Jinn and wouldn't know it.

not just quran to know there is no god just one god who the using he head know that too no god just one god that just for who using the reason.... :idea:
 

Scott Free

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no prophet muhammad was human the bad jinn need to people adoring him and do not adoring the god because from that bad jinn hate the quran

How do you know it isn't the good Jinn that hate the Qur'an?

That would explain that, despite there being only one god, you must adore Muhammad or be killed - that seems like a Jinn thing now doesn't it?

not just quran to know there is no god just one god who the using he head know that too no god just one god that just for who using the reason.... :idea:

How do you know that though? The Qur'an could be a lie - how would you know? That would explain all the bad things Muslims do now wouldn't it?
 
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ahmadabdalrhman

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How do you know it isn't the good Jinn that hate the Qur'an?

the good jinn believe in god

but this jinn not believe in god and kick some from the humans

That would explain that, despite there being only one god, you must adore Muhammad or be killed - that seems like a Jinn thing now doesn't it?

sorry I just adore the god not adore prophet muhammad

muhammad just the last prophet not the god

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Sahih International: Muْammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels [to unbelief]? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful.




How do you know that though? The Qur'an could be a lie - how would you know? That would explain all the bad things Muslims do now wouldn't it?


what the god say stoping me :

Sahih International: Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction.

and I know the quran in arabic he do not have contradiction