A Jewish woman explains about the Quran better than many muslims

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In the Bible (old and new): God is God the Creator. Jesus the Holy Ghost was God in other forms.


"One of the revelations of God given to Moses just before he died was concerning the final Prophet that would come. This amazing Word came to him by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit in Deuteronomy 18:15, “The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken.” In Deuteronomy 18:18-19 further said, “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.” There is no doubt that a Prophet that mentioned here was referring to the final Prophet namely Jesus Christ and not the other of prophets that came after Moses.


In the New Testament Peter made it clear that ‘a Prophet’ mentioned by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:15 was referring to the Lord Jesus Christ. As Peter quoted this verse in his preaching in Acts 3:22-23 saying, “For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that Prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” It was “in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth” Peter asked the cripple man to “rise up and walk” (Acts 3:6). Though the Old Testament prophets also spoke with authority but Jesus Christ is the final Prophet, the Prophet of all prophets. Thus Deuteronomy 18:15 is the messianic prophecy that is fulfilled in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ."
 

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I don't know, but about Jesus it was something peculiar: because the apostles are usually sent at 40 years of age, but the mession of Jesus was quicker and may be shorter and might have started earleire: I don't know exactly.
John the Baptist was called about 6 months before he baptized Jesus in the River Jordan. If the Bible is giving us time that are less than one hour in duration why would that be discarded as being 'totally in error'?

Re.11:12
And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them,
Come up hither.
And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud;
and their enemies beheld them.
Re.11:13
And the same hour was there a great earthquake,
and the tenth part of the city fell,
and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand:
and the remnant were affrighted,
and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Re.11:14
The second woe is past;
and,
behold,
the third woe cometh quickly.

Quickly in this instance is the very next verse.

In the Quran: God is God the Creator.
All others are His created servants. And the Holy Ghost is Gabriel the angel.
The Bible points to God being the (singular) creator as you say, the Holy Spirit is the way those words God speaks are made into reality. Those two are above created beings, even Angels. Christ was a witness to to those two doing what Genesis 1 covers (for example)
Your "but, but" snide comment won't help should you be on the wrong side of the 'line' when this unfolds, you get to meet the Holy Spirit first hand, that would be a good time to spring your surprise.

Re.15:8
And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God,
and from his power;
and no man was able to enter into the temple,
till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

Though the Old Testament prophets also spoke with authority but Jesus Christ is the final Prophet, the Prophet of all prophets. Thus Deuteronomy 18:15 is the messianic prophecy that is fulfilled in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ."
While I agree with most of what you said it would appear the the 'beloved Discople' (the writer of Revelation) was the last Prophet in Scripture.
Re.1:3
Blessed is he that readeth,
and they that hear the words of this prophecy,
and keep those things which are written therein:
for the time is at hand.
 

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In the Bible (old and new): God is God the Creator. Jesus the Holy Ghost was God in other forms.
God is One without any associate or equal or patron; God filled the entire universe with a large large number of intelligent beings: humans, genies and angels. Out of these are His apostles (or messengers) to people. Jesus like all other prophets came and lived some years then passed away. No difference. No glorification is due to anyone other than God Most Gracious.

What criteria you ascribe to Jesus making him in some way or another as god: in fact this is against the program of God which is very strange and had been an invention in the heavenly religion.

This is the enthusiasm that leads to associating of Jesus together with God; while the mere glorification is forbidden to anyone othe than God; and even to take anyone as patron instead of God is forbidden, and is a kind of idolatry.

If one asks them about this enthusiasm: they only say: it is written as such in our NT, which is in fact distorted and cannot be depeneded upon as evidence to base their doctrine on it.

While in the Quran: God is One without associate or equal, and all the other beings are only His created servants.


"One of the revelations of God given to Moses just before he died was concerning the final Prophet that would come. This amazing Word came to him by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit in Deuteronomy 18:15, “The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken.” In Deuteronomy 18:18-19 further said, “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.” There is no doubt that a Prophet that mentioned here was referring to the final Prophet namely Jesus Christ and not the other of prophets that came after Moses.

A large number of prophets (including Jesus) came after Moses, but all of them were out of themselves(i.e. Isaelites) not of their brethren.

This prophecy was fulfilled in our noble Prophet Mohammed: one of their brethren: the sons of Ismael not he sons of Isaac and his son Jacob:

It is mentioned in the Bible, Book of Deuteronomy 18: 18-19; God-be exalted- said to Moses [about Prophet Mohammed]
“18-I will raise them a prophet out of the midst of their brethren (*) like to thee. And I will put my words in his mouth: and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him.
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[(*) i.e. Prophet Mohammed-peace be on him- because he is of their brethren; for both Ismael and his brother Isaac were the sons of Abraham. Ismael was the grandfather of Mohammed. Isaac was the father of Israel.]

19-And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in my name, I will be the revenger.”

But Jews neither believed in the Christ nor in Prophet Mohammed, and they were enemies to them both, and tried to kill them, but they could not do that.
Prophet Ahmed as Mentioned in the Gospel
 

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Don't worry Enassir....the Dajjal will keep an eye on things....

 

eanassir

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Is this the Dajjal described in the prophetic tradition with his one eye? Everything is possible, petros. Thank you, that you made me alert of this brilliant idea.
Anyhow, I read a tradition that: When the Dajjal sees the Mehdi, he will melt out as does the lump of salt melt out in the water, and the Mehdi will pursue and kill him. :D