Herman, enough. I did not say words mean "nothing." I simply implied they're often not enough. They're not a magic bullet. They're not the only thing available to address a problem. And as Ithinknot knows very well, they are numbingly overrated.
A birthday visit by the Queen Elizabeth
- Thread starter Logic 7
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I'll never understand your love of violence. Mainly because you can't justify it.
but that's ok for you isnt it cos u can just hit me, then i'll understand, right?
but that's ok for you isnt it cos u can just hit me, then i'll understand, right?
Why does she not deserve the respect? for what she(her family) has done to quebec and the rest of the world, and if you can't see it, that is your problem, having respect for that kind of peoples, shows how ignorant you are.
Yes i would do it, and even more, i would spit on her face, just like i would do on yours and many in here.
What makes me laugh, you are a strong supporter of israel, iraq war, afganisthan,where thousand of innoncent peoples suffered, including old peoples who has no money to get the media attention, yet you have more sympatie for a stupid bitch.
That shows how smart you are.
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I'd wipe my face, try to prevent you from hurting each other and call the police. And tell them to bring the men in white coats.
The Queen celebrated her 81st birthday yesterday. She's been Queen since she was just 26 and for all of those 55 years she's worked hard to serve her people and continues to travel around Britain and the world, despite her age, to meet her people.
Most people of 81 are retired who want to live a quieter life without work and too much travel. But, at her age, she continues to work hard and puts state business before her own leisure. She's patron of 620 charities and organisations, including the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, the Queen Elizabeth Hospital for Children and the Canadian Medical Association. During Christmas she likes to send Christmas Trees to schools. She helped the War effort in the 1940s, joining the Women's Auxiliary Territorial Service. EVERY day, even during what is supposed to be her holiday or even when she's ill, she studies her red dispatch boxes every day to know about affairs if state in Britain and the other 15 or so nations of which she is Head of State.
For those reasons alone I think Queen Elizabeth II, who is much loved in Britain, needs a bit more respect.
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Having a Republic is probably more expensive than having a Monarchy. The British Monarchy is VERY cheap - it costs each British person the equivalent of just two pints of milk - 61p - each year.....
Here's some info -
[SIZE=+2]ROYAL FINANCES[/SIZE]
This article appeared in the December 2001 issue of Sovereignty. We are grateful to the Constitutional Monarchy Association for providing the following information. Membership £20 payable to The Monarchist League, PO Box 5307, Bishop's Stortford,, Hertfordshire CM23 3DZ.
Free download of "The Jubilee Song", sung by Edward Tudor Pole here http://www.travelman.co.uk/jubileesong
The Queen and her Household has four sources of funding - the Civil List, Grant-in-Aid, the Privy Purse and private income.
The first two, which cover official expenditure, are not taxed, the Privy Purse is fully taxable subject to a deduction for official expenditure, and the Queen pays tax on her personal income and capital gains.
The Civil List is the sum provided by Parliament to meet the official expenses of the Queen as Head of State. About 70% of Civil List expenditure goes to pay the salaries of staff working directly for the Queen. Their duties include dealing with State papers, and organising the Queen's public engagements, meetings, receptions and official entertainment, including Royal Garden Parties. In other words, the whole range of activities expected of a Head of State, whether president or monarch.
The Civil List as it currently exists was created on the accession of King George III in 1760, when it was decided that the cost of government should be provided by Parliament. In return, and in a move described by John Brooke in his biography of the King as "from the point of view of the Crown ... the most disastrous step that could have been taken", he surrendered the hereditary royal revenue. This included income from the customs and post office and the net surplus of the Crown Estate. The £132.9 million profit of the Crown Estate for year ending March 31st 2000 was paid to the Exchequer for the benefit of taxpayers. This sum far exceeds the total cost of the monarchy. The Queen's Civil List has been fixed at £7.9 million per annum until 2011. Full details of Royal Household expenditure are published.
The Queen Mother and Prince Philip are the only other members of the Royal Family to receive annuities from the Civil List, of £643,000 and £359,000 respectively. The annuities of other members of the Royal Family who carry out engagements on Her Majesty's behalf are provided by the Queen from the Privy Purse. The revenue for this is obtained from the Duchy of Lancaster, an independent possession of the Sovereign since 1399. It is not included in the National Asset Register of Government holdings published by HM Treasury. The Prince of Wales derives his income, on which he pays tax, from the Duchy of Cornwall.
The Occupied Royal Palaces, principally Buckingham Palace, St.James's Palace, Clarence House, parts of Kensington Palace and Windsor Castle are funded by Grants-in-Aid. Obviously, they would be maintained by the State whether Britain were a monarchy or not.
The Unoccupied Palaces, such as the Tower of London and Hampton Court, are maintained from visitor admissions.
Royal transport, required to enable the Royal Family to carry out almost 3000 engagements a year, is also funded by Grant-in-Aid. Of course, official travel would also have to be paid for, if Britain were a republic.
Privately, the Queen owns Balmoral and Sandringham and some smaller properties. Estimates of the Queen's wealth have often been wildly exaggerated, as they mistakenly include items which are held by the Queen as Sovereign on behalf of the nation and are not her private property. These include the Royal Palaces, Art Collection, Crown Jewels and so on. Far from being Britain's wealthiest person, the Queen is 105th on The Sunday Times 2001 Rich List.
The annual cost of the monarchy is approximately £37 million. For details see www.royal.gov.uk
In republics not only do presidents have to be supported financially, as do former presidents and widows, but their official duties have to be paid for, and official and historic residences maintained.
And there is the added expense of periodic elections. Republics show great reluctance in publishing the cost of their heads of state, but the cost of the British monarchy compares extremely favourably.
sovereignty.org.uk
I agree. People forget that Monarchs, unlike Presidents, can never retire. They have to work for life, unless they abdicate.
I just wonder if Charles III will ever be as admired the current Monarch.
Logic 7, you really have lost touch with reality. Instead of you hurling those rocks at the queens, save them for your own face and put your self out of your misery.
Shows how nice a person you are; pissant, pompous, pedomorphic, petty prat that you are.Illogic7 said:
Are there two "t"s in "prat"?
Just looked, there aren't:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prat
Just looked, there aren't:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prat
glad to see someone changed the spelling of the title of this thread. Someone made a horrible mistake
I'm entirely in support of your efforts comrade Logic 7, don't let the quizzlings get to you, they're servants of privilage they'd bent thier knees and beg the favours of monarchist scum. I would fling stones with you and be proud of it. A pox on the whole lot of royal inbreds.:smile:
We dont have Dollars my man.....that is an AMERICAN thing (the Dollar sign is just the letters US), we have POUNDS, did you know the POUND originates from the Roman Lira?...that is why the POUND sign is an L!!!!!.
And her FAMILY were your monarch throughout your history, if you wish to change her, that is your right, but a fool thinks of her as just some random foreigner, because that she aint.
Ah, so you are blaming them for what they are? You were born to be obnoxious and deluded, We should stone you for that.
Why not can the hatred and just accept that there are people to avoid and people to adhere to?I don't like the idea of royalty either, but I don't wish ill on royalty or hate them.