94 % of Canadians support country's healthcare system

captain morgan

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You learn something new everyday. I wonder how many MRI's have been ordered for suspected ouchies.


The numbers are chilling.

But, back to the issue(s): You had mentioned the boomers hitting full-on retirement soon. That is a fact and having such a large demographic no longer actively contributing to the tax base and more of them using the healthcare system will stretch the resources to the limit.

This brings us back to the issue of responsible use... There are far too many people that believe the system is all things to all people - in short; it isn't.

When any one gvt portfolio begins to consume close to 50% of the provincial resources, then you have a problem.
 

Cannuck

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This brings us back to the issue of responsible use... There are far too many people that believe the system is all things to all people - in short; it isn't.


Yup that's just one problem among many. Another is our view that hospitals should be like hotels.
 

captain morgan

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Yup that's just one problem among many. Another is our view that hospitals should be like hotels.


No doubt.

I did some consulting in the healthcare field some years back. At the time, AB had the lowest overnight hospital costs in the country (not ER) which was $1,500. That provided a bed, 3 meals, overworked attending nurses and a couple of physicians available.

Interestingly, for about half that cost, I could have lived in the Westin, had a private nurse and food - all within a 10 minute cab ride to the Foothills Hospital
 

Cannuck

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If you get blood under your toenail, you can call it Subungual Hematoma - otherwise, it's just a stubbed toe.

They wouldn't even do an X-ray for that. I think you're telling stories out of school.

Mind you, you are from Saskatistan. That may be common practice there given it's proximity to the thalamus
 

petros

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I did three nights in early October for a massive blood clot in my leg and pulmonary embulisms. After being kept awake those three nights and being served a single slice of toast and PB and J for brekkie. i asked for a second tray if available and got another slice of toast with PB and J for a diabetic , I hobbled out and went for pizza. I can suffer at home just as easily as I can there but sleep and eat.

They wouldn't even do an X-ray for that. I think you're telling stories out of school.
Wanna bet?
 

JLM

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People need to stop oversimplifying the problem. It isn't just overpaid and understaffed. It isn't just over use of x-rays for stubbed toes. It isn't just about "putting out fires". It isn't just about whiners and demands of a raft of MRIs and intensive testing. It's all of the above and then some. It's an aging population. It's about increasingly expensive options like organ transplantations. It's about always improving pre-hospital care that keeps more and more people alive after heart attacks and accidents. It's about alot of things.

Over simplifying????????????????? If every poster here identified one problem, don't you think that would pretty well cover it? That is how we get to the bottom of things, by many people contributing moreso than one person having the whole answer.-:)

They wouldn't even do an X-ray for that. I think you're telling stories out of school.

Mind you, you are from Saskatistan. That may be common practice there given it's proximity to the thalamus

And here we have you expounding on abuse from others! :lol:
 

petros

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Me too. Work people to death and hire someone without seniority until they are dead too. For what they pay in OT they could hire another person full time.
 

karrie

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There are idiots who run (intended) to ER for a stubbed toe and there are idiots who x-ray stubbed toes knowing they are stubbed toes.

My daughter went in to physio for a twisted ankle that was giving her grief weeks after the fact. The physiotherapist said she'd need xrays to see if there was perhaps a hairline fracture. I asked "if it's broken what do we do." She replied that it would make no difference for treatment whether it has been broken or just very badly sprained. She was very shocked when I said no don't do an x ray. If all you're doing is satisfying personal curiosity and it makes no difference to treatment then what is the point of running an xray?
 

captain morgan

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She was actually baffled that I didn't want to see if it was broken or not. In the end she agreed so that it was extraneous and pointless.


My personal opinion/observation in play here;

The feeling that I have gotten in the past in speaking with people I know that have (at one time or another) medical issues is that there is a perception that folks want to get 'the most for their money' when it comes to healthcare despite the fact that you don't pay even a fraction of the actual costs.

Your physiotherapist's response kinda does (and kinda doesn't) remind me of that.
 

damngrumpy

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I for one would be one of those most happy with the system. I have always had great service
and so has my wife. She has severe COPD and when it flares up hospitalization is immediate
or death takes place. We have never had a problem with emergency or at any stage of the
problem.
I myself was found to have a case of bladder cancer, and the time I waited was less than a month
from diagnosis to an operation which took care of the problem.
If one is really in need or in an emergency situation you get help, and patients should also remember
everyone can't be first.
I think these people are doing a good job and under some less than ideal conditions but the fact is
medicare and the system is a lot better than our friends to the South who are slowly finding out its the
way to go.