60% of Canada Day's budget in Québec

Numure

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cub1c said:
It's so crazy that this year, Loco Locass, Cowboy Fringants, Dumas and a lots of other decided to say F-U to the governement and made their own Saint-Jean Baptiste show. We "celebrate" both SJB and Canada Day, June 24 and July 1st, SJB is our national day, Québec's Day if you want. It will be in Montréal the 24 of June at 1pm until, like they say, the later they can. 20$ for student and 30$ for the rest. They expect more than 30 000 people (they have a limit!), and it's probably already sold out. I already have my ticket though. This will be the most EXTREMELY political event people have seen in years in the whole Canada.

Saint-Jean-Baptiste is crazy over here. And by the way, alchool law are very different in Québec!!! Liquors are controled by SAQ, a LCBO like, and beer wine and the rest is sold in convenient and grocery store everyday until 11pm. So there is no problem for alcool here!!
And even our SAQ is open on week end. There is even SAQ Express which is open till 11pm.

We fête la St-Jean everywhere. I already have a costume haha. I wear a huge Québec flag as a cap, another Québec flag as a jupe. Its awsome man.
 

s_lone

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The independant show organized by Loco Locass, Cowboys Fringuants and company will be quite huge indeed... But add this up with an electoral campaign and we're in for a very political Saint-Jean Baptiste day... This is exciting! :twisted:
 

bluealberta

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no1important said:
In this instance, at least, privatization has certainly been to the benefit of the consumer and customer.

How? From what I know first hand and from numerous studies it has not.

Actually prices never really went down much, if anything they went up , except at places like Superstore (only when they have a sale). Prices are just as high if not higher in smaller stores and in smaller communities, your prices may be a few cents here and there (on a very few items), cheaper than BC where workers get a descent living wage and benefits and not minimum wage that most private store owners pay.

I lived near the border for 6 years and the only place on the way to and including Grande Praire that had lower prices( not much though unless you caught a sale)was the Real Canadian Superstore. Beaverlodge, Hythe, Fairview,Peace river etc booze was no bargain, actually more than in BC (for comparison sake) .Then Booze went up until you hit Edmonton. Even there its no bargain.

The study finds:

Prices for beverage alcohol sold by British Columbia government owned liquor stores are competitive, and in many cases, cost less than typical prices at private liquor stores in Alberta.

here
or here or here

A good read. As prices according to this study go up not down when privatized. All Klein really did was union bust and create minimum wage jobs, whilst removing good descent paying ones. A common theme I might add among right wing governments.

Having to go to BC several times a year, I will confirm your booze prices are higher by far than Alberta's. When BC people come to Alberta, they not only don't bring booze from BC, they also take back booze from Alberta because it is cheaper in Alberta. You also missed the main point, in that there are more choices, and yes, some things went down in price. Don't forget, this happend many years ago, so it is a bit hard to compare prices now to what they may have been without privitization. Instead of two government run liquor stores, now there are many privately owned small business' running these stores. If you think that is a bad thing, okay. From a small business and consumer point of view, I suspect there will not be any complaints, especially for those of us who used to have to stand in line for hours at Christmas and New Years time. Yes, the govt workers were unionized, but not all of them lost jobs, many were reallocated to other jobs in the govt. But again, this was many years ago, and I have not heard anybody wish for the old days.
 

missile

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Booze has to be cheaper in Alberta,because they don't have any extra taxes on it.I don't blame Quebec for accepting all the money that Ottawa throws it's way..who in their right mind refuses money?
 

Said1

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Re: RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

no1important said:
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Booze has to be cheaper in Alberta,because they don't have any extra taxes on it

That is another myth. The fact is it isn't. Except in some rare occassions and the studies back that up.

Are the studies that back that up false, or taken during the summer, when there is lots of sales?
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

no1important said:
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Booze has to be cheaper in Alberta,because they don't have any extra taxes on it

That is another myth. The fact is it isn't. Except in some rare occassions and the studies back that up.

You are wrong, plain and simple. Studies, hell, real life is what counts, and I have been there done that for a long time. Booze prices in Alberta compared to BC are cheaper in Alberta. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Alberta wins on this one.
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

Reverend Blair said:
Yeah, because personal anecdotes are always more accurate than proper studies.

No, real life is more accurate that studies which are obviously wrong. Don't believe me? Take a trip from southern Alberta to southern BC and price compare. I will guarantee you prices are lower in Alberta. Really don't care what your studies may show, these are the facts.
 

Cathou

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Re: RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

Said1 said:
No one answered my question either, "Do Quebecers celebrate Jean Baptiste Day more (or instead of) than Canada Day?"

yes. in every town (almost, not in westmount i guess) the city council have a budget for the st-jean-baptiste. every single little village or so make it's fire and firework, and many of those have some kind of show. for canada day, you have a show in montreal, maybe in quebec but i'm not sure, and probably in some cities south of montreal where all the english people are parked... but in most town there nothing exept a day that we dont work...
 

Reverend Blair

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No, real life is more accurate that studies which are obviously wrong. Don't believe me? Take a trip from southern Alberta to southern BC and price compare. I will guarantee you prices are lower in Alberta. Really don't care what your studies may show, these are the facts.

Studies are based on fact. Personal anecdotes are based on narrow personal experience.