60% of Canada Day's budget in Québec

missile

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Your Liquor Laws are very sensible in comparison to ours. One liquor store over here,and it is in a strip mall over 10 miles from my location.Also,there are two uptown and one in the north End. We should be able to buy beer and some wines at all the convenience stores[and there are many of them here.]
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

We still have the official permit thing. Odd that.

We've had off-sales forever though. They sell cold beer. In Saskatchewan the off-sales charge extra. How's that for weird? It's not quite as free as being able to buy beer at the 7-11, but it's a lot closer than having to search out a liquor store.
 

mrmom2

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You got to be kidding missile I've got 2 beer stores that are know full fledge liquor stores and a liquor store all with in walking distance and I live in the burbs :p
 

missile

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Some of our little country stores are allowed to sell beer,but only where there are no official liquor stores within driving distance,but not in any of our cities. I wouldn't mind having a brew myself ,if it didn't involve getting on the bus,going over town,and then carrying it back home the same way.I've never seen one of our liquor stores that didn't have it's own personal panhandler standing right at the door,begging for spare change,too.
 

cub1c

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RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

I think we should open a new thread for beer ;)

I thought it was only Ontario that has rules for beer and all. I didn't knew we were the only lucky one! I say lucky because I don't know if it's because we know how to drink, we fought for it, that we aren't paranoiac or just lucky.

I've hear that in Ontario beer is in LCBO and liquors (vodka, rum etc) is sold in 7-11. When it's completly the reverse here, all 7-11 like store sells beer. That's a weird debate, but ROC doesn't seem to be complaining about the issue.
 

missile

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Re: RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

cub1c said:
I think we should open a new thread for beer ;)

I thought it was only Ontario that has rules for beer and all. I didn't knew we were the only lucky one! I say lucky because I don't know if it's because we know how to drink, we fought for it, that we aren't paranoiac or just lucky.

I've hear that in Ontario beer is in LCBO and liquors (vodka, rum etc) is sold in 7-11. When it's completly the reverse here, all 7-11 like store sells beer. That's a weird debate, but ROC doesn't seem to be complaining about the issue.
You're right! You are lucky,and living in a beautiful province,too.Not only are your liquor laws more sane than ours,your laws on adult entertainment are far better than what we have. :cry:
 

cub1c

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You're right! You are lucky,and living in a beautiful province,too.Not only are your liquor laws more sane than ours,your laws on adult entertainment are far better than what we have.

Yes! Main reason people wants to preserve Québec's integrity!

It's not only sane, it's a question of logic, no? Itsn't liquors worse than beer? I don't really get the ideology behind those rules in ROC.

But I know there is plenty differences in the application of the law, it's all little details, but when you add it up, it's completly different. And I must admit that I am not well aware about thoses minor differences. It would be interesting to know more.

What about adult entertainment? Far better in what sense? ;)
 

missile

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As of right now,there is not even one strip club in the City.We do have two adult bookstores,tho. Our Cannibis Cafe is closed now,the owners busted for selling to a narc.There is not even a Gay Bar anymore! Not that I have gone to any of the above,I still believe that there is a need for these types of businesses and there should be some.Uptown is dead after 6PM most every night.
 

cub1c

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Re: RE: 60% of Canada Day's budget in Québec

missile said:
As of right now,there is not even one strip club in the City.We do have two adult bookstores,tho. Our Cannibis Cafe is closed now,the owners busted for selling to a narc.There is not even a Gay Bar anymore! Not that I have gone to any of the above,I still believe that there is a need for these types of businesses and there should be some.Uptown is dead after 6PM most every night.


Ok I see. But all of this isn't because it's not a "big" city? I'm not very aware.

Cannabis cafes could benefit from a great market in Québec but are still illegal, and the one that opened in Montréal got close for the same reason as yours. Lot's of gay bars too, but they're mostly all in the same area, the Quartier Gay.

As for the stip clubs, it's the best place in North America for sure. 10$ and you touch the girl like you want, except you know there's a limit, for a song. Dance a 10. ;)
And I don't mention REAL girl-on-girl action on stage with clear view ;) But hey, that's all part of the mentality. A Quebecers that goes into those strip clubs isn't as exited as Ontarians, or worst, Americans. I went to all of the 100 strips clubs in Montreal, so if someone needs a visit of those ;). It's all part of our Latin bagages.
 

Reverend Blair

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10$ and you touch the girl like you want, except you know there's a limit, for a song.

I think I prefer our system. Touch the girl and two big bikers come over and beat you to a bloody pulp. Strippers get a lot more respect here than they do in other provinces.
 

Said1

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Re: RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

cub1c said:
I think we should open a new thread for beer ;)

I thought it was only Ontario that has rules for beer and all. I didn't knew we were the only lucky one! I say lucky because I don't know if it's because we know how to drink, we fought for it, that we aren't paranoiac or just lucky.

I've hear that in Ontario beer is in LCBO and liquors (vodka, rum etc) is sold in 7-11. When it's completly the reverse here, all 7-11 like store sells beer. That's a weird debate, but ROC doesn't seem to be complaining about the issue.

Canned and specialty beers are bought at the LCBO in Ontario. As far as I know, liquor isn't sold at 7-11 - not here anyway. There are LCBO wine shops in malls and grocery stores though.

No one answered my question either, "Do Quebecers celebrate Jean Baptiste Day more (or instead of) than Canada Day?"
 

bluealberta

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missile said:
Your Liquor Laws are very sensible in comparison to ours. One liquor store over here,and it is in a strip mall over 10 miles from my location.Also,there are two uptown and one in the north End. We should be able to buy beer and some wines at all the convenience stores[and there are many of them here.]

We used to have the same problem in Alberta, until Ralph privatized the liquor store busines. Now we have numerous stores, employing hundreds of people, and more choice. There are three liquor stores within a mile radius of my house, and where there used to be two stores in our city prior to privatization, there are now over 25. Great for the consumer, too, many more choices of brands, there are sales, and prices have gone down. In this instance, at least, privatization has certainly been to the benefit of the consumer and customer.
 

no1important

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RE: 60% of Canada Day's b

In this instance, at least, privatization has certainly been to the benefit of the consumer and customer.

How? From what I know first hand and from numerous studies it has not.

Actually prices never really went down much, if anything they went up , except at places like Superstore (only when they have a sale). Prices are just as high if not higher in smaller stores and in smaller communities, your prices may be a few cents here and there (on a very few items), cheaper than BC where workers get a descent living wage and benefits and not minimum wage that most private store owners pay.

I lived near the border for 6 years and the only place on the way to and including Grande Praire that had lower prices( not much though unless you caught a sale)was the Real Canadian Superstore. Beaverlodge, Hythe, Fairview,Peace river etc booze was no bargain, actually more than in BC (for comparison sake) .Then Booze went up until you hit Edmonton. Even there its no bargain.

The study finds:

Prices for beverage alcohol sold by British Columbia government owned liquor stores are competitive, and in many cases, cost less than typical prices at private liquor stores in Alberta.

here
or here or here

A good read. As prices according to this study go up not down when privatized. All Klein really did was union bust and create minimum wage jobs, whilst removing good descent paying ones. A common theme I might add among right wing governments.
 

SilentSwirl

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cub1c said:
What percentage of the Québec budget is spent in the RoC on Québec's Day?

Is this a serious argument? 8O
No! I leave the polemics to others. It is a serious question.

If I understand your points correctly you are concerned that:

Point 1) Québec does not celebrate Canada Day, it celebrates something else; it is therefore condescending of Canada to provide Québec with this funding. Especially as a feeble effort to coerce Québecers to love Canada for one day of the year.

I agree, and suggest that Québec could return the funding provided by Canada; along with a request that the RoC use it to celebrate Québec day. This will illustrate the stupidity of Canada's federal government in providing the funding to Québec in the first place (especially when the good folks of the RoC use Québec's day to "move").

Point 2) The funding provided to Québec by Canada is not managed properly by the federal government - there is no subsequent accounting for the funding.

I agree, but believe this problem will only be resolved when Canada is governed by people who do not confuse leadership and national unity with mollifying rhetoric. This form of government requires the adoption of positions, statements or actions that might cause the national mosiac to shatter.

Isn't it good that we agree cub1c?
 

Numure

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mrmom2 said:
Maybe its time Quebec got nothing for Canada day we have a great party here in Kamloops on July 1 and some more money for it sure wouldn't hurt :wink:

Our party is the 24th. I dont know why they spend as much.