$40B profit for EXXON last year, while Harper is happy to collect the gas tax.

Socrates the Greek

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No No, make no mistake the oil belongs to Alberta, the profit could get split 70% Alberta/30 Canada there will be no equalization and if we sold it to Canadians and canadian firms; lets say a 20% discount, the economy would have an edge over those economies paying 100% for their fuel/energy- the only losers are the oil companies.


I am sure I fair split can take palce to keep Albertans or Nova Scotians happy.
But definitely to pay $2, 00 a litter will amputate the Canadian economy, and hurt many ordenery hard working people.
 

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In the time the Liberals were in power the price of gas rose from .46l in 1993 to as high as 117.9l in 2005, THEY DID NOTHING ,now if you had it your way, wouldn't we be paying a carbon tax on top of this, don,t get the Feds involved, they have and will not do anything to stop the rise in oil( they can't)I think that we will all have to wait until the bubble burst, and as far as Alberta sharing it's wealth, it does, ten fold, it is keeping the country afloat while the U.S is eating a **** sandwhich.
 

Lester

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Well if this is the speculators fault it, should be removed from the market as an investment vehicle. only those who have a refinery in which to refine it should be able to buy it. if they buy it then they must take delivery, no more paper oil.
 

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It only costs 9$ to 12$ a barrel for the oilsands oil and that price comes down as new tech emerges. I still think we should Nationalize it, the price of oil directly effects the Country's economy it's becoming a security issue. If oil hits 200.00 by next year -how will we be able to function? every expense will get passed on to consumers whether we like it or not and I for one will have to do without a few luxuries because of it. I don't know about that shale oil. Dothey do steam assisted extraction or do they process it (dig it up like the oilsands)

They pay double and triple per gallon/litre in Europe, of what we pay in North America.
 

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What do you know?
You probably have oil shares and hope they rip though the roof, while you don't give a rats arss about Canada as a whole and you probably live in the Conservative province of Alberta.
I am in the shipping business and trusst me I get it better than you think.

@ $200 a barrel the litter will move up to a cost of just under $2.00 a litter x 4 litters a gallon $8,00. The freight 24 weeler trucks do 7 miles per gallon at that rate to move food around the country will starve many Canadians beacuse the cost will be eveintualy past on to Canadians who allready find it hard to make ends meet. So, I don't get it? :roll::roll::roll:

Yeah, I might have known you were a truck driver. And truck driver or not, you don't understand how oil price is arrived at. And, no, I don't own oil shares. No point discussing it with you any more.
 

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Yeah, I might have known you were a truck driver. And truck driver or not, you don't understand how oil price is arrived at. And, no, I don't own oil shares. No point discussing it with you any more.

I am not a truck driver; I work for a big reputable freight company. I am glad you understand just don’t bend over in front of your loser Conservative mentors in Ottawa who will stick it to you when you are not paying close attention. The long of it and the short of it is that should gas hit the $2,00 mark per litter you will be riding you donkey to work and if you don’t have a donkey you will be walking talking to your self wandering what happened.
 

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. The long of it and the short of it is that should gas hit the $2,00 mark per litter you will be riding you donkey to work and if you don’t have a donkey you will be walking talking to your self wandering what happened.


Maybe you will...but I won't...and neither will other tradesman like myself...... you can say goodbye to the $90-$120 service call though...that'll be going through the roof to pay for the gas so I can fix your furnace/HW tank/AC unit.
 

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They pay double and triple per gallon/litre in Europe, of what we pay in North America.




North America is completely independent from Europe; Europe doesn’t set the trend for North America. In Britten yesterday the trucking industry shut down a big section of London in protest because they are not able to drive their rigs having to pay such outrageous prices for fuel, while they try to pay for up keep on their rigs and put food on the table. You have seen nothing yet. This madness will make a hand full of greedy bustards filthy rich while others will brake their families up because the Government has no balls to help its people.
 

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Maybe you will...but I won't...and neither will other tradesman like myself...... you can say goodbye to the $90-$120 service call though...that'll be going through the roof to pay for the gas so I can fix your furnace/HW tank/AC unit.


Should this madness reach this state I will and many others stop using Natural gas or oil and we will be refitting our houses with wood stoves and guess what you will be out of work because you charged too much for your services. Besides there will be many moon workers undercutting their companies while the underground economy will flair up to the point that you will be out of work. Say what?
 

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Yeah, I might have known you were a truck driver. And truck driver or not, you don't understand how oil price is arrived at. And, no, I don't own oil shares. No point discussing it with you any more.

Hey when you see an oil executive scum sh!t bug earn $12,000,000 a year $32,000 a day $4,000 per hour don't waist you typing telling me I don't know how oil prices are set.
From the sounds of it you are ignorent of how this madness realy works.
 

gerryh

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Should this madness reach this state I will and many others stop using Natural gas or oil and we will be refitting our houses with wood stoves and guess what you will be out of work because you charged too much for your services. Besides there will be many moon workers undercutting their companies while the underground economy will flair up to the point that you will be out of work. Say what?


Keep dreamin...... wood can't replace nat. gas as a heating fuel. Too dirty and not enough to sustain a North American population in excess of 330 million people... unless you're goona start burnin your house for fuel.....LOL.... suck it up junior, we have it quite good here in Canada.... comparativley inexpensive fuel, Electricity, shelter and food. But I guess you whiney types need something to bitch about and put on the whoa is me/poor me blanket.
 

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They pay double and triple per gallon/litre in Europe, of what we pay in North America.


That's right ITN but the rationale behind the price of gasoline in Europe is vastly different in dimension and nature. Socialist regimes have exercised considerable influence in many European nations. To support a decent unemplpyment reserve, pay reasonable separation pay and support an enormous medical care availability to millions costs a lot of money!

Across every parameter of "social assistance", where reality meets the rent/mortgage/food-bill reality of average people European support has been far greater for far longer than have any similar social developments in North America.

The burden of these costs is accepted by the far greater bulk of European taxpayers becuase they understand after centuries of warfare and strife that ones basic human needs and the instability or unpredictabilty of these needs whether exacted through lawlessness and violence or through inept governments and corrupt businesses... will always inevitably fall to the people of that nation. It makes more sense to distribute the wealth of a nations consumption habits across as many others as possible turning them into consumers as well.

Most Captialists and an awful lot of Republicans can feel their blood pressure rise when they hear talk like this....
 

mt_pockets1000

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Some of us will be ok with the high price of fuel and food but I worry about the people on fixed income (my parents) or anyone living at or below the poverty line (my son). They will suffer the most.
 

gerryh

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Some of us will be ok with the high price of fuel and food but I worry about the people on fixed income (my parents) or anyone living at or below the poverty line (my son). They will suffer the most.


All of my family will be fine...that includes my parents on a fixed income, and those of my kids at minimum wage.....how? They are family, and thusly family helps family.... if anybody' has family members, ESPECIALLY PARENTS, that are hurting bad, then they should be looking in the mirror as to where the problem is....not at the government or the corporations.
 

Risus

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Hey when you see an oil executive scum sh!t bug earn $12,000,000 a year $32,000 a day $4,000 per hour don't waist you typing telling me I don't know how oil prices are set.
From the sounds of it you are ignorent of how this madness realy works.

Well you type like a truck driver. Learn to spell for crying out loud. And just because the oil executives are grabbing big salaries, they are NOT the ones who set oil prices. Neither are the Conservatives. You obviously are oblivious to the facts , so take your grumbling someplace else.
 

mt_pockets1000

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Good for you Gerry. Your compassion breaks my heart. But don't presume to speak for me on how to deal with my family. We get along just fine thank you very much. You know what you can do with your moral high ground.

None of mine are going without and they never will as long as I can help. And who says I'm going to be able to help for long? My dollar won't be able to stretch that far in the coming years, just like everybody elses. Not everybody is able to shell out the cold hard cash to help out the less fortunate. Most people are struggling to get by from day to day.
 

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Maybe you will...but I won't...and neither will other tradesman like myself...... you can say goodbye to the $90-$120 service call though...that'll be going through the roof to pay for the gas so I can fix your furnace/HW tank/AC unit.
This would be called rampant inflation which pensions and wages will not be able to keep up with, If I can't afford natural gas to heat my home and water, I will not need your services.
 

gerryh

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I just LOVE the melo-dramatics....it's funnier than hell....ROFLMAO...


The sky is falling....the sky is falling.......


I remember when gas went over 1.00 a GALLON and all the whining and bitching..... same f'n thing now as then......
 

gerryh

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Oh ya.....and this happened in or around '76... minimum wage in BC was 2.65 an hour... it's now,.....what....8 bucks an hour? Grow up...ya bunch of whiny nancy boys.
 

Lester

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Yeah, and in 1982 interest rates were an unheard of 20%, you don't think that will happen again? Inflation will kick the s*it out of anybody, the speculators will be driving up the grain futures soon when they can't squeze enough cash out of oil.