40% decline in permanent residents becoming Canadian citizens since 2001, data shows

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StatCan numbers reveal the percentage of permanent residents who become Canadians has plummeted over the past 20 years.


The Institute for Canadian Citizenship says Statistics Canada data points to a 40 per cent decline in citizenship uptake since 2001.

The group’s CEO, Daniel Bernhard, calls the drop alarming and says it should serve as a “wake up call” to improving the experience newcomers have in Canada.

In 2021, nearly 45.7 per cent of permanent residents who’d been in Canada for less than 10 years became citizens.

That’s down from 60 per cent in 2016, and 75.1 per cent in 2001.


Well that's got to be a serious piss off for trudeau - go through all the trouble of doubling immigration but more than half the immigrants won't even be able to vote for you. :)

And stats show that of those who do become citizens voter turn out is pretty low.

But this does show an interesting trend. I'm wondering if the liberals response will be to seriously relax the requirement for citizenship or if they'll just try to double down on immigration again in the hopes more people stick.
 
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Legitimate landed immigrants, who pay their fees, and wait things out for 10 years and then apply for citizenship without the citizenship test, etc… that might be what we’re seeing.
 

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Legitimate landed immigrants, who pay their fees, and wait things out for 10 years and then apply for citizenship without the citizenship test, etc… that might be what we’re seeing.
They need proficiency in English or French first. Its hard to learn if your mother tongue is is part of where you live and english not needed.
 

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Legitimate landed immigrants, who pay their fees, and wait things out for 10 years and then apply for citizenship without the citizenship test, etc… that might be what we’re seeing.
Maybe but what would be the catalyst for that now?
 

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They need proficiency in English or French first. Its hard to learn if your mother tongue is is part of where you live and english not needed.
Lack of both English and French language skills? Not wanting to have to write the citizenship test to end up knowing more about Canadian history than Canadiens do? A change in the pricing scheme to renew your landed, immigrant status versus the fees for the citizenship test before the 10 years is up? A combination of all the above? Something different?

Is it all of a sudden or is it in the last two decades, but increasing over time?

I’ve got a daughter-in-law from Utah, who is waiting it out for her 10 years as opposed to getting her citizenship beforehand, and she speaks English. I’m assuming her motivations are convenience and financial, but I will ask her the next time I see her.
 

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Lack of both English and French language skills? Not wanting to have to write the citizenship test to end up knowing more about Canadian history than Canadiens do? A change in the pricing scheme to renew your landed, immigrant status versus the fees for the citizenship test before the 10 years is up? A combination of all the above? Something different?
Fulfilling the goal of immigrating to the US? Canada isnt mosts first choice.
 

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Is it all of a sudden or is it in the last two decades, but increasing over time?
It actually seems like it's just been the last two decades. Before that it was a little higher. But it's never been 100 percent or anything. lets face it - citizenship doesn't really change THAT much for you. You can vote, for some people there may be some tax implications, but otherwise life is pretty much the same as far as day to day life goes for most.

It may have to do with the origins of the immigrants. Perhaps some people from some countries see less value in jumping through the hoops than others.
 

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StatCan numbers reveal the percentage of permanent residents who become Canadians has plummeted over the past 20 years.


The Institute for Canadian Citizenship says Statistics Canada data points to a 40 per cent decline in citizenship uptake since 2001.

The group’s CEO, Daniel Bernhard, calls the drop alarming and says it should serve as a “wake up call” to improving the experience newcomers have in Canada.

In 2021, nearly 45.7 per cent of permanent residents who’d been in Canada for less than 10 years became citizens.

That’s down from 60 per cent in 2016, and 75.1 per cent in 2001.


Well that's got to be a serious piss off for trudeau - go through all the trouble of doubling immigration but more than half the immigrants won't even be able to vote for you. :)

And stats show that of those who do become citizens voter turn out is pretty low.

But this does show an interesting trend. I'm wondering if the liberals response will be to seriously relax the requirement for citizenship or if they'll just try to double down on immigration again in the hopes more people stick.
SO give them the boot. If they don['t want to become citizens within 5 years, they don't need to stay. There are citizens need housing.
 

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SO give them the boot. If they don['t want to become citizens within 5 years, they don't need to stay. There are citizens need housing.
I think with that policy you'll just get them to become citizens, and then they can vote for whomever wasn't the guy who wanted to give them the boot :)
 

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It actually seems like it's just been the last two decades. Before that it was a little higher. But it's never been 100 percent or anything. lets face it - citizenship doesn't really change THAT much for you. You can vote, for some people there may be some tax implications, but otherwise life is pretty much the same as far as day to day life goes for most.

It may have to do with the origins of the immigrants. Perhaps some people from some countries see less value in jumping through the hoops than others.
Got an answer back.

At one point, as long as you went through two renewals (5yr each) of PR, you could be grandfathered in as a citizen, but that program has been discontinued.

The Fee’s (Renewal Fee’s) for PR are much less than the Fee for Citizenship…& the test.

Then the test itself. With PR you have a SIN# so you can work, pay taxes, have healthcare, ect….but you can’t vote. That’s about it, so the answer comes back to convenience & financial….& not having to do the test itself, study, understand Enough English or French to complete it, etc….

As long as your passport (previous country) isn’t a detriment to travel, not much incentive for citizenship in Canada.
 
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Y'all have birthright citizenship?
Yeah. It’s a tourism boon (or at least used to be) on the West Coast (closest to Asia).

This is assuming that I’m answering the question correctly by understanding the question.

If a child is born in Canada, the child receives Canadian citizenshipstatus. Even in a situation, when a child is born to parents who are not Canadian citizens, the child automatically becomes a Canadian Citizen. Non-residents of Canada may come to Canada to deliver a child.

Guess I understood the question correctly. Google “Birth Tourism Canada”
 

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Yeah. It’s a tourism boon (or at least used to be) on the West Coast (closest to Asia).

This is assuming that I’m answering the question correctly by understanding the question.
Probably. Born within the borders, citizen. We have it too, most countries don't.

I'd say that's probably your answer (that plus the money and the Great Canadian Trivia Contest). Lots of immigrants are lonely, out of place, and don't really feel fully a part of the new country. They cling to the old culture and old ways, despite the fact that they decided they had to leave. And they know their kids will be Canadian regardless, so it's not a huge deal.

Well, that and your Prime Minister. A lot of them are thinking "Maybe Assad wasn't really all that bad. At least he wasn't an idiot."
 

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government, which controls immigration policy, has been silent on the matter. Former Conservative party Leader Andrew Scheer said in 2018 he would end birth tourism. NDP leader Jagmeet Singh has accused those who raise the issue of being guilty of “division and hate.”

So…consistent? Then I posted totally the wrong link here, but it’s late, so you can google your own.

Last week, Mendicino’s department finally responded, saying the minister is aware “of the increase in births by non-residents in Canada” and promised to “monitor” it. Richmond BC was itself failing to combat the dozens of shadowy birth hotels and agents in the city, which help women give birth in Canada for fees in the tens of thousands of dollars, etc….

Ads aimed at women in China who want to have babies in Canada tout luxurious accommodation, birthright citizenship in the “world’s most livable country,” 12 years of free public education, university fees just 10 per cent of those paid by foreign students, free health care and eventual family reunification for the parents of the baby who obtains the passport.
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