2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

Remington1

Council Member
Jan 30, 2016
1,469
1
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Looks like 'The Donald" is a sucker for punishment. I'm glad though, it makes news so much more interesting; on one end, I've never seen so many crazy, absurd people in my life, and on the other end, we are honoured with some very intelligent professional who speak quite well. The worst idiot is Rudi, he's now passed the no return to 'normal person' status now, he must have been a raging bigot throughout his career, he's an utter fool. I wonder how many blacks or immigrants he stepped up to assist during his mayor ship !!
 

Corduroy

Senate Member
Feb 9, 2011
6,670
2
36
Vancouver, BC
It appears that you view the world as a place where women are just victims of men.

That's not what I said. Try reading it again.

It relegates argument to sophistry and then to absurdity in an attempt to obfuscate all moral reference points from the discussiont.

You're the one defending Trump. I think he's a disgusting and immoral person. He's a serial adulterer. He brags about molesting women. He hits on children. And you want him to be president. You said his behaviour is irrelevant. Who's "obfuscated all moral reference points" when I come out against such a man and you want him to be the most powerful person in the world? You aren't even willing to condemn the man's actions let alone say he shouldn't hold high office.

If you had an ounce of the moral integrity you pretend to have, you would oppose both candidates. A better person with the strength of their convictions would recognize Trump's character for what it is. You deliberately ignore it, and you are thus culpable for the moral degradation in the world you claim to oppose.

+ a million.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
Looks like 'The Donald" is a sucker for punishment. I'm glad though, it makes news so much more interesting; on one end, I've never seen so many crazy, absurd people in my life, and on the other end, we are honoured with some very intelligent professional who speak quite well. The worst idiot is Rudi, he's now passed the no return to 'normal person' status now, he must have been a raging bigot throughout his career, he's an utter fool. I wonder how many blacks or immigrants he stepped up to assist during his mayor ship !!

Yup, despite all the negative bullshyte this election, it has been one of the most entertaining in my lifetime. Watching Trumpites doing contortions every time Donald sticks his foot in his mouth has been hilarious.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,816
469
83
A lot of taxpayers believe the world would be better if they paid less taxes.

We call these people stupid.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,816
469
83
No, you just care about saving the cost of the envelope, not the possibility of mutual benefit in the cost savings.

This is why fiscal conservatives (and libertarians) are idiots.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,816
469
83
Yes, thanks for making my point about value and fiscal conservatives (as noted above)
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
No, you just care about saving the cost of the envelope, not the possibility of mutual benefit in the cost savings.

This why fiscal conservatives (and libertarians) are idiots.
The cost of the envelope is irrelevant to me. I will spend far more than that supporting HALO and thereby saving lives. How come you believe a few hundred Canadian lives aren't worth 5 minutes of your time and a stamped envelope. Is it because your left-wing ideology allows you to not take any personal responsibilities.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,816
469
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Yes, you're clearly plugging your ears now that you've lost.

Don't be bitter about it.

Just change and be a better person now.
 

Corduroy

Senate Member
Feb 9, 2011
6,670
2
36
Vancouver, BC
It's true. Rachel Notley won't let the government send letters to remind you to renew your driver's license. Politicalnick, a libertarian, thinks it's a bloody outrage. So obviously socialists are anti-envelope and fiscal conservatives, the poor babies, are stridently pro-envelope. Wait, what the **** are you guys on about?
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
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Alberta
And utilitarianism is not a left or right wing philosophy.

Stop being so silly. You've made the idiotic claim that fiscal conservatives care more about money than people. The evidence clearly shows you are wrong.

The evidence is overwhelming that I care more for people than you do because I actually spend my time and my money helping other people. You just want to hand the problem to government so you don't have to take any personal responsibility. Then in the case of Notley, when she clearly places the value of a dollar over people's lives, the left is strangely silent. They (you) try to play a silly shell game in a feeble attempt to hide your lack of concern for your fellow human beings.

People that actually care about their fellow man aren't gleeful when they die... even if they disagree with their politics.

It's true. Rachel Notley won't let the government send letters to remind you to renew your driver's license. Politicalnick, a libertarian, thinks it's a bloody outrage. So obviously socialists are anti-envelope and fiscal conservatives, the poor babies, are stridently pro-envelope. Wait, what the **** are you guys on about?

MF made the silly comment that fiscal conservatives care more about money than people. Now he's trying to use bafflegab to backtrack