2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
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davesmom

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GREENSBORO, N.C. — Donald Trump suggested several times Friday that he would not have sexually harassed the women who have accused him of assault because of their physical attractiveness. The comments, which appeared to be made offhandedly, drew repeated laughs from the audience.
“Believe me, she would not be my first choice, that I can tell you,” Trump said during a campaign event here, referring to one alleged victim. “You don’t know. That would not be my first choice.”
Trump was in that instance referring to Jessica Leeds, who accused Trump of putting his hand up her skirt on an airplane decades ago. Her story, which was first recounted in the New York Times, is one of a half-dozen allegations that have been made in recent days.
He added later, in a singsong voice: “When you looked at that horrible woman last night, you said, ‘I don't think so.’ ”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...able-main_pp-firstchoice-332pm:homepage/story


Still think he wasn't talking about her appearance, davesmom?


Maybe, maybe not. It's makes political hay to take Trump's words in the most damaging context.
I could drive a herd of buffalo through the holes in her story. Nobody is talking about those 'holes'. Just analyzing Trump's words in the worst way.
Smerconish said this morning that her story was credible. I thought it was a lot of bs. Especially when she said that it went on for about 15 minutes! Any woman who would put up with advances like she describes from a stranger for 15 SECONDS is lying about something!


It's already been established that Donald Trump is a pervert, a molester and a pedophile. No one should be surprised at this. Donald Trump fits perfectly into the mold of a person with a long history of sexual harassment, perversion and being enabled by the people around him. So there's the disgusting video of Trump flirting with a child.

The saddest thing about this is the girl's reaction. When that hideous anus-faced orange says to a child that he's going to be dating her in 10 years, she awkwardly laughs. This is what happens in rape culture. When you joke that all men talk like this and it's fine, you forget the effects it has on our culture and on the targets of such comments. Girls have to put up with the flirtations and crude sexual comments of grown men from very early ages. That kind of comment from a man is intimidating and threatening. The prospect of a man claiming sexual entitlement over a young girl and possibly molesting her is so present it's almost casual. In fact, the casual and common nature was your defense of his comments. So you say this is just how guys talk. OK, so should we live in a world where girls are subject to constant sexual evaluation, where men feel it's normal to talk about molesting them? Girls learn from an early age to deal with living in this world, when it shouldn't be a world that exists or a world that you defend. You can't imagine what it would be like to have a man like Donald Trump say that to you, or to have the very real possibility that any man could say or any other similar comment. It broke my heart to hear the girl laugh it away. Donald Trump is predator and a comment like that should be met with disgust by all who heard it. That girl should have run to an adult she trusted and said that disgusting man is coming on to her. But she didn't. She used one of the defenses women employ to keep predatory men from hurting them. She's learned it already and no one will defend her or keep this culture from perpetuating.


It appears that you view the world as a place where women are just victims of men. That attitude is what makes women victims.
It can't be stressed strongly enough, no man can intimidate you unless you allow him to.
The best way to get respect and fair treatment is to act like you deserve it and to give it to others.


What has happened since the 'women's movement' is that men have actually become the victims. Women take offense at the slightest look or remark, they make false accusations against men just because they can, causing men who meant no harm at all to be saddled with suspicion for the rest of their lives.
Women who do that are despicable and deserve no respect.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It's getting lost in the glare of the dumpster fire we call an election, but the US has escalated military action in the Saudi-led war against militants in Yemen.
We been at war in Yemen for a few years now. What tipped you off? Was it the meme?

Maybe, maybe not. It's makes political hay to take Trump's words in the most damaging context.
I could drive a herd of buffalo through the holes in her story. Nobody is talking about those 'holes'. Just analyzing Trump's words in the worst way.
Smerconish said this morning that her story was credible. I thought it was a lot of bs. Especially when she said that it went on for about 15 minutes! Any woman who would put up with advances like she describes from a stranger for 15 SECONDS is lying about something!




It appears that you view the world as a place where women are just victims of men. That attitude is what makes women victims.
It can't be stressed strongly enough, no man can intimidate you unless you allow him to.
The best way to get respect and fair treatment is to act like you deserve it and to give it to others.


What has happened since the 'women's movement' is that men have actually become the victims. Women take offense at the slightest look or remark, they make false accusations against men just because they can, causing men who meant no harm at all to be saddled with suspicion for the rest of their lives.
Women who do that are despicable and deserve no respect.

After Trump's birtherism, all's fair.
 

coldstream

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Hillary is absent from the campaign again.. solidifying her personna as a fragile, vacant, passive, negative candidate.. completely submissive to her handlers in Podesta and others in George Soros' and companion's radical, amoral, globalist Free Market conspiracy. A world of slavery, usury, oligarchs without the prerogative of nation states to act on behalf of justice.

Hillary's ideological vessel is a rusted out hulk carrying a cargo of death. It is a phantom ship, a Flying Dutchman.

I predict that this media lynch mob, led by CNN, NYTimes, Washington Post will only produce a backlash at its shrillness, prejudice and disproportion. They are revelling now in the belief that Trump is unelectable. Hold on!

As long as Trump sticks to the issues.. trade, currency manipulation, sovereignty, borders, security, SCOTUS, national integrity and foreign disentanglement.. he will win the election. People couldn't care less about these trivial distractions with which the media wants to define the race.

Polls in times of upheaval.. especially PHONE polls, of 'likely voters', based on demographic oracles .. are massively unreliable, just like they were with Brexit. Watch on Election Night as Trump takes 3 or 4 of the Rust Belt Battleground States, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin.. the Salt of the Earth Bellwether States, Iowa, New Hampshire.. North Carolina.. the High Plains States, Arizona, Nevada.

If all else holds that will win him the election before Florida comes in late in the evening, close but falling for Trump. Trump will out poll Clinton by about 46% to 44% nationwide. Even if some of this isn't realized he'll get something like 300 of the 270 Electoral Votes needed for Election.

It'll all be based on Issues.. AND.. the fact that a majority of the voters cannot visualize Hillary as President. She is everything the U.S. is not, a contrived New Age ideological hag.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Dems in charge for Bay of Tonkin
Is that anywhere near the Gulf of Tonkin, asswit?

Dems in charge now, I see a trend.

Yep. Dems in charge at Versailles, Dems in charge aboard the Missouri in Yokohama Harbor.

Reps in charge when we called Korea a draw and bailed. Reps in charge when we hightailed it outta Vietnam. Reps in charge when we didn't finish off Saddam Hussein in Desert Storm, Reps in charge when we broke the Middle East.
 

pgs

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Hillary is absent from the campaign again.. solidifying her personna as a fragile, vacant, passive, negative candidate.. completely submissive to her handlers in Podesta and others in George Soros' and companions radical, amoral, globalist Free Market conspiracy. A world of slavery, usury, oligarchs without the prerogative of nation states to act on behalf of justice.

Hillary's ideological vessel is a rusted out hulk carrying a cargo of death. It is a phantom ship, a Flying Dutchman.

I predict that this media lynch mob, led by CNN, NYTimes, Washington post will only produce a backlash at its shrillness, prejudice and disproportion. They are revelling now in the belief that Trump is unelectable. Hold on!

As long as Trump sticks to the issues.. trade, currency manipulation, sovereignty, borders, security, SCOTUS, national integrity and foreign disentanglement.. he will win the election. People couldn't care less about these trivial distractions with which the media wants to define the race.

Polls in times of upheaval.. especially PHONE polls, of 'likely voters', based on demographic oracles .. are massively unreliable, just like they were with Brexit. Watch on Election Night as Trump takes 3 or 4 of the Rust Belt Battleground States, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin.. the Salt of the Earth Bellwether States, Iowa, New Hampshire.. North Carolina.. the High Plains States, Arizona, Nevada.


If all else holds that will win him the election before Florida comes in late in the evening, close but falling for Trump. Trump will out poll Clinton by about 46% to 44% nationwide. Even if some of this isn't realized he'll get something like 300 of the 270 Electoral Votes needed for Election.

It'll all be based on Issues.. AND.. the fact that a majority of the voters cannot visualize Hillary as President. She is everything the U.S. is not, a contrived New Age ideological hag.
Us boorish slobs that dwell in the darkest corners of society hope you are right .
They fun to watch the talking heads explode will be worth what ever damage Trump could do .
 

Cliffy

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coldstream

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You don't think that Donald Trump's behavior is about carnal gratification? His gaudy casinos and sexualization of young girls in beauty pageants? Donald Trump is the moral degradation you rail against. And the fact that you support him and casually dismiss his actions is the moral relativism you abhor.

You are the moral degradation. Your support of Trump supports it. If you're worldview is accurate, you are causing the collapse of civilization. Donald Trump must surely be a Satanic force bent on undermining the moral order of the world. Do you think you can outsmart the devil? He's deceived you so blatantly. It's obvious for anyone to see but the high and mighty moral arbiters so wrapped up in their high importance. It's genius how blindly you've been corrupted by Satan.

Spoken like a true believer of the New Age semantic trickery. It is the tool of the Agnostic who believes in neither God or the Devil, but without the integrity to subscribe to a system that requires a rational structure like Atheism. One who views all religion as a social teleological construct without supernatural and absolute character.

It relegates argument to sophistry and then to absurdity in an attempt to obfuscate all moral reference points from the discussion... by purloining and corrupting language to their cause. It's a surrealist prank.

You, Corduroy, think that can be done with impunity.. I know it can't.
 
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Cannuck

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If you're going to play that game, Winnipeg comes far closer with Sakatoon and Regina not far behind.

Don't be so silly. All three of those cities have it all over Toronto as does every other city in Canada. I understand torontonians believe their city is so wonderful but that's why they're so obnoxious
 

coldstream

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The LA Times Tracking Poll.. which uses a different methodology than other polls but proved to be one of the most accurate in predicting the outcome of 2012 contest.. has shown that Trump has retaken the national lead in a close race, even after all this kerfuffle of a tempest in a teacup stirred up by the media.

As of October 15 .. Trump - 44.2%.. Clinton 44.1%.
 
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Curious Cdn

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Don't be so silly. All three of those cities have it all over Toronto as does every other city in Canada. I understand torontonians believe their city is so wonderful but that's why they're so obnoxious

I'm not from here, btw.

I will say that the fourth largest city in North America is several different cosmopolitain p!aces. You would know that if you weren't a bumpkin from Bugtussle.
 

Remington1

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Finally, Trump is challenging Hillary to a drug test, which I think is totally fair, it extends the offer to her in asking for a lie detector test, fair is fair. *** for tat, she prove that she has no decease and he proves that he has not grabbed many many pus%$y's. At the same time, they could polygraph that creep Gilberthorpe, who sat win the plane in view of Trump and the lady and saw nothing, this is a pedophile who claims to procuring boys to old guys for sex, gross. Can't believe Trumps team did not check who Gilberthorpe really was, now they're running yet again. Man oh Man! what they won't do to get that cushy, high paying job in Washington. It's like a circus.
 

davesmom

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..... and he proves that he has not grabbed many many pus%$y's. .


By rights nobody HAS to prove innocence. The onus is on the accuser to prove guilt.
All Trump ever had to do is say that it is not true. Those women must prove beyond a doubt that he is guilty or they are guilty of defamation of character. The fact that they waited until they thought it would influence the outcome of the election indicates malicious intent.
If they can't come up with credible eyewitnesses, Trump should sue their asses off.


How many people were on that plane? Why have none of them come forward to say it happened or that it didn't happen?
She put up with his alleged advances for about 15 minutes. She said she was waiting for a stewardess to come to her aid. What nonsense!
I have been on quite a few flights, the attendants are very watchful of what goes on. If nobody interfered it must have been because it looked to them to be consensual if it ever happened at all, which I highly doubt.


Then there's another one who read her complaint. It sounded like she was reading from a Harlequin novel. She told of Trump's suggestive behavior from the beginning of their meeting, yet she stayed....and stayed.......and stayed.......and stayed for hours and hours in his company. It either didn't happen or she was loving it!.


People shouldn't make public accusations unless they can back them up when and if confronted. It is not only a crime, it is immoral and sinful.


Furthermore, I think the tv commentators who incessantly run clips from the tape and accusations are getting their kicks from the dirty words and alleged scenes portrayed by the accusers. They talk all sanctimonious and self righteous; "I have NEVER talked like that! I have NEVER heard things like that!"
Yeah, right! They look like they are getting quite the fantasies out of playing those things over and over. Every show plays the same scenes at least 5 times during the show. Don't tell me they think everyone in the world has not already seen them.
 
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