2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

Corduroy

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I'll buy "immature," but "young" is a bit of a stretch. He was crowding 60.

That's the excuse people make. At 60 Trump could be excused for being a pervert because he was immature. At 60! If you aren't mature at 60 you shouldn't be trusted to be president.

Maybe we should start re-evaluating maturity to be more in line with the snifflers beliefs. It's pretty clear that a lot of people are immature for their whole lives. You can't vote before you're 18 due to a lack of maturity. You can't hold certain offices until you're older presumably for the same reason. For US president it's 35. But numbers are arbitrary as evidenced by JLM saying some 14 year olds are women and so it's not pedophilia to spy on them. Maturity is an attitude right? And if Donald Trump says 10 years ago he had the maturity of a teenage boy, maybe he's not mature enough to be president, and maybe some of his supporters aren't mature enough to vote.

Every time I hear him speak, he's ranting about Hillary (and now other Republicans). Pray tell what important issues he's talking about today.

Today Trump posted several times about the various accusations of sexual assault against him. These are the campaign issues selected by the candidate himself as topics of discussion. Sorry, snifflers.

Just Hillary! :)

And yet you said you trust him. You say only Hillary Clinton is less believable than Trump, but you trust Trump.
 

Remington1

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Walking in women's change room because he was the owner. Taking full advantage of his power is below crass. I can only imagine our CEO walking in the women's washroom at work!l Women exposed to Trump have been exploited, and traumatized. It's a shame the US has gone that low. All these people standing behind him, knowing he's got real issues, are just as bad. Their loyalty is now based on pure prejudice only, but even that should no longer be justification to vote for a predator.

 

taxslave

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Ah the false equivalence excuse.

The last vestige of a losing faction, desperate to mitigate their loss by pretending two candidates are equally harmful.


Up here it's called the Hudak effect - posthumously, the Whodat Effect.

Are you upset that Clinton is going to lose and the American people are the winners?

Wow, I knew you'd say something silly to defend Trump but I never expected you to defend pedophilia. Is that how sick this election has made you?



If by quirky you mean spies on naked teenage girls.

Up until a few years ago 14 was legal in Canada.
 

mentalfloss

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Are you upset that Clinton is going to lose and the American people are the winners?

 

coldstream

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I've seen media lynch mobs (CNN, NYT, Washington Post and on) like this backfire on them and the candidate they support.

There is a push back when everything becomes so disproportionate and unfair that undecided voters start wondering about the whether this is meant to disguise the 'private' agendas that Hillary alluded to in the Wikileaks Podesta emails.

Podesta himself is an asset of arch antiCatholic Dark Age magnate George Soros and his cohorts' plans for a global financial oligarchy... free of borders or restraint on banking and trading interests. That is a prescription for a society dominated by usury and slavery.

Clinton's campaign is absent vision, integrity, ideals and is racked with phantoms and idols of New Age ideology. It is truly a cult defined by moral disorder and death. It has resorted to its only hope for the election. To draw it into the gutter and trap Trump in a rat hole of trivial allegations.

It is also a very fragile and unsound vessel. As these things play out over the next 25 days you will see compensating events. Do not count Trump out. He represents the only recourse to continuation of paradigm that has ruled the world for 50 years and is now descending into catastrophic collapse.

This will be a close election.. and any number of trajectories.. historic, social, moral, political, civilizational.. are going to intersect on November 8th.. for better or worse. The least of all those will be irrelevant allegations against Trump's conduct.

He is really a figure head for much more important issues. He is also a brawler.. who can fight in the gutter if backed into a wall and given no other choice. I just hope Trump spends two thirds of his time on issues that brought him here.. Trade, currency, SCOTUS, nationalism, borders.

I say let loose on the Witch of the West, the hecate and hag, with all of what's left. Hillary is a puppet and shill for much darker forces which control her.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Headlines from President Trump's first foreign trip. . .

March 15, 2017: PRINCE WILLIAM COLDCOCKS PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR GROPING DUCHESS OF CAMBRIDGE

March 16, 2017: PRINCE PHILIP COLDCOCKS PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR GROPING QUEEN

March 18, 2017: PRIME MINISTER MAY COLDCOCKS PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR GROPING HER

March 21, 2017: CHANCELLOR MERKEL COLDCOCKS PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR GROPING HER

March 24, 2017: POPE FRANCIS COLDCOCKS PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR GROPING NUN

March 28, 2017: PRESIDENT PUTIN COLDCOCKS PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR FUN
 

coldstream

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It's funny that you think Clinton is part of this anti-Catholic death cult bent on destroying the moral order, but think Trump's conduct is irrelevant.


Trivial at least. I never said Trump was some kind of holy man and saint. I'd search for one of those in a monastery, not a political campaign. Trump's a flawed man but apparently none of these women felt their violation, if it actually occurred, was of sufficient gravity to draw him into criminal or civil proceedings. That's not true of Bill Clinton. But Hillary is a designate of truly dark forces.
 

Corduroy

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Trivial at least.

Donald Trump is a serial adulterer. Three times married. Molests women and brags about it. Spies on young girls changing. And you say it's trivial. A lot of Trump supporters seem to be brushing aside these allegations too.

What moral authority you have when your saviour is a vile immoral man like Donald Trump and you all dismiss it as nothing. All these people, like you, don't care about what Donald Trump does. So here you are enabling the immoral behaviour of this man and promoting him to high office. And you're supposed to be the champions of morality? Looks to me like you're in the anti-Catholic death cult too. Uh-oh, Satan has corrupted you.
 

coldstream

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Is the collapse of Western Civilization connected to the decline in moral behaviour?


oops pushed the wrong button and gave you a thumbs up.. hope you don't take it seriously.


But yes.. moral disorder, if it becomes the guiding principle of a culture.. as it has in the last 50 years in the West, framed by moral relativism, radical individualism, carnal gratification (as obligation and 'right').. will lead to economic and societal collapse. We seem to be in some kind of end game.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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oops pushed the wrong button and gave you a thumbs up.. hope you don't take it seriously.


But yes.. moral disorder, if it becomes the guiding principle of a culture.. as it has in the last 50 years in the West, framed by moral relativism, radical individualism, carnal gratification (as obligation and 'right').. will lead to economic and societal collapse. We seem to be in some kind of end game.
Well, your shining hero seems to be leading the charge on carnal gratification.
 

Corduroy

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But yes.. moral disorder, if it becomes the guiding principle of a culture.. as it has in the last 50 years in the West, framed by moral relativism, radical individualism, carnal gratification (as obligation and 'right').. will lead to economic and societal collapse. We seem to be in some kind of end game.

You don't think that Donald Trump's behavior is about carnal gratification? His gaudy casinos and sexualization of young girls in beauty pageants? Donald Trump is the moral degradation you rail against. And the fact that you support him and casually dismiss his actions is the moral relativism you abhor.

You are the moral degradation. Your support of Trump supports it. If you're worldview is accurate, you are causing the collapse of civilization. Donald Trump must surely be a Satanic force bent on undermining the moral order of the world. Do you think you can outsmart the devil? He's deceived you so blatantly. It's obvious for anyone to see but the high and mighty moral arbiters so wrapped up in their high importance. It's genius how blindly you've been corrupted by Satan.

Neither is Clinton.

Oh, and here's a newsflash: Bill Clinton isn't running for President.

Just thought I'd clear that up for ya, being a foreigner and all.

Americans seem to need that cleared up too.

But hey, coldstream is the moral authority here. If Clinton's husband does it, it's the collapse of civilization. If Trump does, he's a bit impulsive and boys will be boys. It's all relative. Morally I mean. We can't just go around taking firm moral stances on this kind of behaviour. We need a more relativistic approach to morality like the one coldstream is adopting. It's the only way we can save civilization from moral relativism.
 

mentalfloss

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New York Times refuses Trump lawyers' demand to retract story about two of his accusers - POLITICO

Dear Mr. Kasowitz:

I write in response to your letter of October 12, 2016 to Dean Baquet concerning your client Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for President of the United States. You write concerning our article “Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately” and label the article as “libel per se.” You ask that we “remove it from [our] website, and issue a full and immediate retraction and apology.” We decline to do so.

The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about this non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms. He acquiesced to a radio host’s request to discuss Mr. Trump’s own daughter as a “piece of ***.” Multiple women not mentioned in our article have publicly come forward to report on Mr. Trump’s unwanted advances. Nothing in our article has had the slights effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.


 
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