2010 Stanley Cup Predictions And Why

Icarus27k

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I would assume that the Flyers will face the Caps if the Caps win their series, and Pittsburgh will face the winner of Boston/Buffalo. That's how re-seeding of Round 2 works, right?
 

talloola

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Not really, it just means there is more parity in the West, especially in this age of 2 and 3 point games. If ALL games were 3 points (i.e. win in regulation = 3, win in OT or SO = 2) then it might mean there was more strength if one conference had dramatically more points per team... but thats still a big stretch because of the out of conference games and the fact that shootouts are decided by an individual dynamic rather than a team one, which disappears in the post season...

Check the stats showing how many games were won by west over
east this season., up until about 3/4 of the season, the
west had won many more than the east, I haven't checked it
since then.
I remember when canucks lost their first game to an eastern
division team this season, I think it was either the 1st or 2nd
time an eastern team had beaten a western team, and the
season had been well under way for some time.

I can't remember where to find that stat, maybe it was put
on the canuck web site, don't know, and I'm not going to take all
the time needed to go through all the games and figure it out.
 
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JLM

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Not really, it just means there is more parity in the West, especially in this age of 2 and 3 point games. If ALL games were 3 points (i.e. win in regulation = 3, win in OT or SO = 2) then it might mean there was more strength if one conference had dramatically more points per team... but thats still a big stretch because of the out of conference games and the fact that shootouts are decided by an individual dynamic rather than a team one, which disappears in the post season...

YOu should listen to Talloola, she knows hockey and every stat since the Rocket scored his first goal. For any stats just check ESPN- it shows exactly how East/West stack up.
 

Icarus27k

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Great game, Devils, Senators, and Avalanche. It was exciting and fun to watch. Train and try again.
 

talloola

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As much as I like Colorado I'm glad they're finished, they
had no business beating san jose, they were outshot so much
through the series, and the only reason they even won a game
is because of anderson, so they need to grow up a little and
get more of a team game going, so they can help their goalie
a little next year.

Ottawa put up a good battle but lost to the better team.

Montreal are all but done, if they ever manage to win the
series against washington, it will be a miracle, but not
impossible.

Haven't got a clue what will happen in buffalo/boston
series, as it has gone back and forth, seems quite even,
but boston might have more will.

I am hoping for detroit over phoenix, because I love the
style detroit play, and want them to continue.

The hockey gods must hate nashville, because the bad luck
of todays game is unbelievable.

Hope Canucks come out firing from both barrels tomorrow, as
that is what they have to do to make sure l.a. don't win
the 6th game, and force #7.
 

wulfie68

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Check the stats showing how many games were won by west over east this season., up until about 3/4 of the season, the west had won many more than the east, I haven't checked it since then.

I remember when canucks lost their first game to an eastern division team this season, I think it was either the 1st or 2nd time an eastern team had beaten a western team, and the season had been well under way for some time.

I can't remember where to find that stat, maybe it was put on the canuck web site, don't know, and I'm not going to take all the time needed to go through all the games and figure it out.

I still don't put much stock in this type of thing because of the ebbs and flows of the season. Say Vancouver could beat Washington with Ovie out for a suspension but that doesn't mean Vancouver is the stronger team. Some teams also seem to just click at a certain point, turning from pylons into supermen (see Ottawa for a while this spring). I agree with the perrenial complaint about the East having it easier most of the time in terms of traveling, but these guys are usually on charters anyway, so its not as bad as it used to be.

In the end, stats are for losers. The ultimate judge is, was and always will be who holds up Lord Stanley's Mug. If its a western team then I'll concede the West was better, but right now the defending champs are from the East.
 

JLM

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I still don't put much stock in this type of thing because of the ebbs and flows of the season. Say Vancouver could beat Washington with Ovie out for a suspension but that doesn't mean Vancouver is the stronger team. Some teams also seem to just click at a certain point, turning from pylons into supermen (see Ottawa for a while this spring). I agree with the perrenial complaint about the East having it easier most of the time in terms of traveling, but these guys are usually on charters anyway, so its not as bad as it used to be.

In the end, stats are for losers. The ultimate judge is, was and always will be who holds up Lord Stanley's Mug. If its a western team then I'll concede the West was better, but right now the defending champs are from the East.

Yeah, it's all pretty nebulous....................a little bit of skill and a whole lotta luck and a certain amount of timing. Anyway for the moment.............THINK CANUCKS.
 

wulfie68

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As much as I like Colorado I'm glad they're finished, they had no business beating san jose, they were outshot so much through the series, and the only reason they even won a game is because of anderson, so they need to grow up a little and get more of a team game going, so they can help their goalie
a little next year.

Ottawa put up a good battle but lost to the better team.

Montreal are all but done, if they ever manage to win the series against washington, it will be a miracle, but notimpossible.

Haven't got a clue what will happen in buffalo/boston series, as it has gone back and forth, seems quite even, but boston might have more will.

I am hoping for detroit over phoenix, because I love the style detroit play, and want them to continue.

The hockey gods must hate nashville, because the bad luck of todays game is unbelievable.

Hope Canucks come out firing from both barrels tomorrow, as that is what they have to do to make sure l.a. don't win the 6th game, and force #7.


Well, so far my pick of the Devils sweeping the Flyers is the only one really making me look bad. Colorado fought hard, but you're right in they didn't deserve to get any further: if they bolster up a bit, they could be a challenge next year. The Sens are similar to the Avs in they fought hard and deserved to lose, but I don;t know which way they are headed.

The Caps should finish the Habs today. I just can't see Montreal making it past them. Not impossible but highly improbable to begin with and moreso now.

Buffalo and Boston, looks like Tukka Rask is the man in Beantown and I wonder what that means for Tim Thomas: is he either headed out or for the pine? I still think Buffalo should win this series but its not going to be easy.

I want to see the Coyotes win, they got a lot of young exciting guys but also some older stalwarts like Shane Doan that I would love to see get a taste. Detroit is like a machine though, and although they may need an overhaul to be truly elite again, there's still a lot of horsepower there.

Nashville and Chicago, I'm surprised by the way the Preds are playing tough and shooting themselves in the foot. The Hawks may not necessarily deserve all that has happened but the Preds don't deserve to win either.

The Canucks should finish off the Kings, but I like the way LA has hung in. They need to find some more speed and to initiate the physical game, instead of letting the Canucks do it. If Vancouver stays out of the box and keeps skating, its over.
 

talloola

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I still don't put much stock in this type of thing because of the ebbs and flows of the season. Say Vancouver could beat Washington with Ovie out for a suspension but that doesn't mean Vancouver is the stronger team. Some teams also seem to just click at a certain point, turning from pylons into supermen (see Ottawa for a while this spring). I agree with the perrenial complaint about the East having it easier most of the time in terms of traveling, but these guys are usually on charters anyway, so its not as bad as it used to be.

In the end, stats are for losers. The ultimate judge is, was and always will be who holds up Lord Stanley's Mug. If its a western team then I'll concede the West was better, but right now the defending champs are from the East.

The proof of what conference is the strongest, in my opinion comes through wins and losses between them, throughout the season, and whoever wins the presidents
trophy only accounts for 'one' team, same with the stanley
cup, there are two separate seasons, one long one which
includes all teams, and one short one which only inlcudes
16 teams.
A season of eighty two games is a pretty good calculator.

The ultimate ending to the season is the stanley cup, but
it doesn't prove much of anything concerning the season,
but the top 16 teams.
 

Risus

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Unfortunately Ottawa lost last night. It hurts me to say this, but I hope montreal takes their series...
 

#juan

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Vancouver has out scored L.A. 21 to 16 so far but without that 7-2 rout, the two teams would be tied at 14. On the other hand, in the last two games, Vancouver has out scored L.A. 13 to 6. I would have to give the edge to the Canucks. Luongo makes the difference.
 

talloola

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Vancouver has out scored L.A. 21 to 16 so far but without that 7-2 rout, the two teams would be tied at 14. On the other hand, in the last two games, Vancouver has out scored L.A. 13 to 6. I would have to give the edge to the Canucks. Luongo makes the difference.

yeah, if l.a. goalies had of done their job last game score
would have been lower for us, although we would still have
won.
It is still very close, that last game was great, we needed
the win, but doesn't have any bearing on what is going to
happen tonight, might have taken a little confidence away
from l.a. goalies, but he could snap out of it tonight and
be 'lights' out, we'll see.
 

Kreskin

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I find it so difficult to predict games these days. A couple of breaks either way is enough to get the momentum going and one past the other. It was nice to finally run into some goaltenders having a rough game.
 

talloola

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I find it so difficult to predict games these days. A couple of breaks either way is enough to get the momentum going and one past the other. It was nice to finally run into some goaltenders having a rough game.

yeah, I watched the detroit/phoenix game today, and phoenix
goalie was unbelievable in first period, phoenix didn't
have a chance, BUT at the end of that period it was 1-
nothing for phoenix, because of one coughed up puck by
detroit, that changed the whole game, they got another
one against the play, then phoenix played much better but
detroit didn't, and lost the game, the goalie was everything
for phoenix, gave them a chance to get into the game, they
did, and that was it, now detroit has to go to phoenix for
the 7th game, and are in trouble, could lose the series.