13,000 gather at Stonehenge for summer solstice

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About 13,000 people watched the sunrise at Stonehenge on Wednesday morning, on the longest day of the year.

The sun rose at the historic monument in Wiltshire at 04:52 BST.

English Heritage opens the site up every year for the solstice, giving people a rare chance to get up close to the monument.

Armed police were on patrol, and extra security measures were put in place following the recent terrorist attacks in London and Manchester.

Summer solstice 2017: Stonehenge crowds as sun rises


21 June 2017
BBC News



About 13,000 people watched the sunrise at Stonehenge on Wednesday morning, on the longest day of the year.

The sun rose at the historic monument in Wiltshire at 04:52 BST.

English Heritage opens the site up every year for the solstice, giving people a rare chance to get up close to the monument.

Armed police were on patrol, and extra security measures were put in place following the recent terrorist attacks in London and Manchester.

Wiltshire Police said the event passed peacefully, but that there were seven "mostly drug-related" arrests.

"This was a successful policing operation with only seven arrests, and we are glad that attendees were able to enjoy the celebrations in a friendly and positive manner as they waited for the sunrise," said Supt Dave Minty.





Those visiting were not allowed access if they had brought pets, sleeping bags and duvets, barbecues or camping equipment.

The flying of drones and remote-controlled aircraft was also banned around the monument.

The site's general manager, Jennifer Davies, said she was "delighted" so many people celebrated the longest day of the year at Stonehenge.

"This year we had extra security arrangements in place and we'd like to thank everyone for their patience and understanding with these," she added.

More than a million people each year flock to the Neolithic site, built more than 4,000 years ago.

It is thought ancient Britons built the massive monument as a religious site, to study and celebrate the movements of the sun and moon, or as a place of burial or healing.







The summer and winter solstices hold particular significance for Pagans.

The summer solstice is celebrated as a "time of plenty and celebration", according to the Pagan Federation, while the winter solstice is deemed even more important because it marks the "re-birth" of the sun for the new year.

This year, armed police were on patrol near to the site, to "reassure" visitors in the wake of the recent terror attacks.

The Pagan Federation said it "sadly accepted" the need for such security measures.

David Spofforth from the organisation said it was "very sad" that armed police were necessary.

"I am not saying I am welcoming this. I sadly accept it," he said.

English Heritage said it hoped this year's solstice festival would be the "greenest solstice yet", by encouraging people to either car share or travel by public transport.

Parking charges of £15 have caused controversy after a senior druid lost a court battle against "pay to pray" charges which he said breached his human rights.





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It's good to see that a 4,500 year old structure is still being used.

The "ceremonies" that they perform are rubbish, though. Harmless, I guess ...
 

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It's good to see that a 4,500 year old structure is still being used.

The "ceremonies" that they perform are rubbish, though. Harmless, I guess ...

Only a few are actualy Pagans. Most are are just people out to party.
 

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Their "paganism" is based on a modern construct of it. What is known about Neolithic beliefs is exactly zip .. zero ... nada.

Well we know a little bit, such as that they liked to bury some of their dead inside long barrows and even some at Stonehenge, and that many stone circles around Britain were aligned with the rising of the Sun at certain times of the year.
 

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Well we know a little bit, such as that they liked to bury some of their dead inside long barrows and even some at Stonehenge, and that many stone circles around Britain were aligned with the rising of the Sun at certain times of the year.

... and that tells us almost nothing. Stonehenge and it's surroundings are more aligned with the winter solstace, although the ancients seem to have included some observance of midsummer. The winter solstace was (and still is) an observance of death and rebirth. That gives us a clue that Stonehenge might have been built as a dwelling place of the dead, not of rock-hugging hippies.
 

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... and that tells us almost nothing. Stonehenge and it's surroundings are more aligned with the winter solstace, although the ancients seem to have included some observance of midsummer. The winter solstace was (and still is) an observance of death and rebirth. That gives us a clue that Stonehenge might have been built as a dwelling place of the dead, not of rock-hugging hippies.

Stonehenge seems to point at midwinter sunrise and midsummer sunset. The ancients would have wanted to celebrate the rising of the Sun at winter solstice to celebrate what they would have believed was a rebirth. Those Pagans and Lefty weirdos going to Stonehenge yesterday morning have got it the wrong way round. They should have been there last night instead.
 

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Gimme that ol' time religion!

You gotta wonder. I'll bet that their belief systems were pretty similar to those of pre-Columbian North Americans. Proximity to "the land" and "nature" would one to view the world in a certain way. We view it an a giant pile of Lego blocks. Actually, the size and type of their construction may give us a hint that our attitudes towards our natural world started there.
 

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You gotta wonder. I'll bet that their belief systems were pretty similar to those of pre-Columbian North Americans. Proximity to "the land" and "nature" would one to view the world in a certain way. We view it an a giant pile of Lego blocks. Actually, the size and type of their construction may give us a hint that our attitudes towards our natural world started there.
Um. . . pre-Columbian North Americans had every conceivable religion. Which ones are you talking about?
 

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Um. . . pre-Columbian North Americans had every conceivable religion. Which ones are you talking about?

It would have been more naturalistic "shamanistic", if you like. I'm not aware that any carved images of the single, omipotent god Zoom-Zoom have been found with native American artifacts. That's what was going on in Eurasia for millenia, though.
 

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It would have been more naturalistic "shamanistic", if you like. I'm not aware that any carved images of the single, omipotent god Zoom-Zoom have been found with native American artifacts. That's what was going on in Eurasia for millenia, though.
Many of the central and northeastern nations in the 1700s and 1800s had monotheism. Look up "Moneto," "Wi'ichan Manitou," and "Wakan Tanka," for example.
 

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Many of the central and northeastern nations in the 1700s and 1800s had monotheism. Look up "Moneto," "Wi'ichan Manitou," and "Wakan Tanka," for example.

I did not know that. I guess that I knew about Manitou but I assumed that it was a Jesuit overlay.
 

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I did not know that. I guess that I knew about Manitou but I assumed that it was a Jesuit overlay.
Two continents. 20,000 years. A fifth of the world's population. Saying anything about "Indians" is necessarily wrong. It's basically saying that a Spartan hoplite in 500 BC and a Swedish banker in 2017 are both Europeans, and therefore must have the same religion, culture, and outlook.
 

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Two continents. 20,000 years. A fifth of the world's population. Saying anything about "Indians" is necessarily wrong. It's basically saying that a Spartan hoplite in 500 BC and a Swedish banker in 2017 are both Europeans, and therefore must have the same religion, culture, and outlook.

There are more similarities than differences. There would likely be no Swedish bankers if a lot of ideas didn't diffuse out of Ancient Greece. The whole mind set is connected and related.

wrong
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start here:
The Working Celtic Cross
The Celtic Cross, Crichton EM Miller

Those henges were part of something quite extraordinary, but its way over most people's heads I find, but here, have a go anyway.

...landing pads? ...
 

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Many of the central and northeastern nations in the 1700s and 1800s had monotheism. Look up "Moneto," "Wi'ichan Manitou," and "Wakan Tanka," for example.

please note:
Manitou in north america, and manitusu in India, and Menes ( the first pharoah) in Egypt, and Minos in Crete are all the same guy, Its the real reason Columbus named my forefathers Indians
duh!
https://archive.org/stream/Egyptian...zation--Its_Sumerian_Origin__RC_1930_djvu.txt

goes with previous post to CC - It all goes together
read em if you actually want to learn something, don't if you don't
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...landing pads? ...
As I said: read 'em if you want to learn something, or don't, if you don't
I am suspecting in your case and Tec's, it's going to be don't