10 Witnessed Rape and Did Nothing

s243a

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The only thing that gives people who use violence power is our fear. Our soldiers and police put their lives on the line for the country, if the citizens aren't willing to do the same the country as whole is weaker.
 
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SwitSof

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Maybe, any one who retaliates against a whiteness and causes physical harm should get the death penalty.

That's a little stretched too far I reckon. Cause that's like extending the death penalty to people who caused physical harm to another person basically.
But I must admit I personally would endorse death penalty for people who committed murder unless it's for self-defense. The cold truth would be like an eye for an eye.
 

SwitSof

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All of this inaction excused by the 'we distrust police' predisposition imported from another country.

Another refulgent example of successful multiculturalism.
Actually I don't think it's an example of the failure in multiculturalism if I did get your sarcasm correctly. Like Skiing said, it's more of people being more selfish and less involved to what is happening around them even in front of their eyes.
There was an article I read in Herald Times I think that a professor in this field, multiculturalism did notice that the recent trend is that there is melting pot but instead people of different ethnic group or race would stay away from the other group and wouldn't want to have anything to do with each other. But that's another case I reckon.

I must admit I am speechless when I read that news I posted. I don't admit I'm a brave person especially knowingly physically I myself alone am not strong enough to be against the other person for example, but if I were in the neighbourhood and were fully aware of this event happening, I'd shout to be heard that as I was shouting I was dialing 911 and made noise so loud to scare the offender and shouting the police was coming and shouting for the others in the neighbourhood to be ashamed of themselves for not doing anything! If I had a baseball bat, I probably hit the hell out of the offender to knock him out!
Gee, what is so difficult to lift a finger to dial a bloody phone! Plus, if there were women watching, the thing that came to my mind is can't they at least see how horrible it would be if it were happening to them or their loved one?! I am just shocked...
 

tamarin

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If people are afraid or reticent to get involved there's obviously a problem. And it's likely to do with the general criminal justice system itself. What incentives are in place to make sure that people "who do the right thing" are properly recognized for it?
We have over the last many years witnessed many good samaritans get hurt or sued because they chose to do the right thing. The cases always make national front pages and I think this is part of the cynicism witnessed in the public today.
 

s243a

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That's a little stretched too far I reckon. Cause that's like extending the death penalty to people who caused physical harm to another person basically.
But I must admit I personally would endorse death penalty for people who committed murder unless it's for self-defense. The cold truth would be like an eye for an eye.

I'm actually generally not a believer in the death penalty but I do think that people who try to subvert our justice system in a violent way should be dealt with harshly. One concept that I think kills us is equality in justice. It means that judges must only look at the events and not how likely someone is to rehabilitate themselves.

Now the obvious problem with what I said in my previous post is, if someone would get the same penalty for a physical assault as murder then once someone is set on committing the assault what is to stop them from going the step further to murder? I don't have an easy answer for this but if someone could face either capital punishment or murder for an assault which was motivated by an effort to subvert justice but was more likely to face the harsher sentence if the crime was murder then that may be an okay blance.

Maybe there can even be harsher degrees of life imprisonment or harsher degrees of the death penalty for crimes that are considered worse. I know there are certain basic human rights that we all value but why are those rights denied to the victims who slip though the cracks because our justice system lacked the teeth needed to deal with violent offenders. I don't pretend there our easy answers but complacency is not an answer.
 

s243a

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