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So, I'll see your Utah and raise you...the Western Climate Initiative.

Why should it rain? That's stupid Walter. It's still Winter, there is still a pattern of persistant high pressure over the Arctic, forcing cold air south, and water still evaporates below 0°C. If it's cold enough to snow, you still get snow, and 0.8°C warming in one hundred years doesn't mean...

It's pretty simple...more evaporation means more precipitation. Let's see what UAH satellites have to say about January and into this February: Looks like it's warmer...there should be more precipitation. Come on Walt, even you can probably understand that.

A toothless tiger.

Unassailable? You're the funniest science illiterate lemming of them all Walt. The man who took money from tobacco companies to deny the science of carcinogenic compounds in tobacco is impossible to dispute? If you say so. :roll: It's not even the first paragraph and he's already leading sheep...

Toles has some nice toons out there. I like this recent one by Morten Morland:

Right, here is the problem Walter. Folks like you love to throw out explanations for why the world is the way it is, and they aren't even consistent. If global warming is being caused by human proliferation of greenhouse gases, then there are some fingerprints we should expect. The oceans should...

Not all corals have the same thermal tolerance.

I have to say, I prefer this twitter style of spamming other peoples opinions by Walter. I'd still prefer to hear him actually show that his brain has consolidated the information, and attempt to show some reasoning and use of logic, at least discuss the content. But if he's not going to do...

See, that's the problem. The globe is a large place. My body can be running a fever even though my hand is sitting in a glass of ice water.

You don't have to be factual to be elected as a politician. How's this for coldest winter? Go to the UAH AMSU daily data page, assembled by Dr. Roy Spencer and Dr. Danny Braswell. Draw the graph, then redraw with all of the years available. This is the warmest January, almost certainly will...

It's hard to notice when their guide doesn't see it, or purposefully makes them look elsewhere.

The major drivers of climate: Orbital, take thousands of years, what's happening now is occurring much faster. Orbital variations are out. Volcanism, if the explosion is large enough to fill the upper atmosphere with dust will cool the Earth for a few years, and then when the aerosols fall out...

Chavez et al. are being opportunists. A few posters here as well. Petty, opportunism. So, what's your alternative? How would you land more airplanes? Where do they taxi, and "park"? How about shipping? Very few deep water ports. Out with it. What idea do you have that works better?

The logarithmic response to increasing carbon dioxide is in the forcing, not the temperature. When the increase in concentration is occurring exponentially, the forcing remains the same; each time the amount added doubles, the forcing is the same, up to a very high concentration, somewhere...

Nice ad hominem.

They are two axis. The temperature axis has nothing to do with where carbon dioxide begins. You're a retard. There are three time series on that graph. One is the atmospheric carbon dioxide, one is HadCRUT, the other is UAH. They are all time series, they all start at 1998. In 1998, the carbon...

I already responded to this on another forum tonight, so I'm just going to repeat myself with a few minor adjustments here: Doh indeed Walter. Where is this phantom "central claim"?

No, I understand what you say just fine. It's just that the things you say aren't an accurate depiction of reality. One graph, three series on the graph. Yes, I know that. I've actually made these graphs before. You, I doubt you know how to even do that with Excel. Whom are you explaining this...

Explain the Keeling curve then. Where is all the extra coming from? The oceans are acidifying, it can't be from there. So where, and why?