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  1. Tonington

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    As methane is a stronger greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, it would probably be better to light the escaping gas on fire...kind of the lesser of two harms really.:-(
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    Death knell for AGW

    The Damoclean sword is poised to strike. But Walter is right...AGW doesn't depend on science, it depends on what Al Gore says and does...that's how the world works alright...sheesh.
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    How big is big? Is a million of anything tangible to you?

    I was reading over at Bad Astronomy, one of my favourite blogs, and read a recent thread about the largeness of some things, and how people perceive them. His thread specifically was talking about one billion. His example was computers, and a gigabyte is 1000X a megabyte. But knowing that...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Assuming that it is a scam...which is not the kind of assumption that stands after a robust look at the data in question.
  5. Tonington

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    That's easy. The IPCC made errors in it's review process. Admitting errors is not a flip-flop... All such processes, no matter what subject, make errors. The significance comes from others using your results to strengthen the body of knowledge by adding new contributions that your work allowed...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    "Global warming isn't happening" is a claim. It's a claim that you said nobody makes, and that 'alarmists' bring up because they can't possibly address your assertion that human influence shows no discernable influence on the climate. You're wrong on both counts. Also, please tell me on what...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    That'll be the day...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Define your terms. You're talking about investigating scientists for whom there is no allegations of fraud. That is not considered in any sense of the word.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Perhaps you may recognize the author of this piece Extra: Letter to naturalSCIENCE: Global Warming is Not Happening Or the title of this book by one Viscount Monckton of Brenchley: Global Warming Science and Public Policy - Global Warming Is Not Happening It's not a strawman. Prominent...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    I refuted the claim you made. You were happy to make the assertion that your claim cannot be refuted. You don't appear to have been happy to respond when I showed a tiny bit out of much, much more evidence which does refute it. Deniers like to throw the equivalent of spaghetti at a wall and...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    There is a huge difference between requiring accountability, and using government agencies to audit all climate scientists which receive public grants to ensure they are not committing fraud. It's a politically motivated threat against an entire group. There is no evidence that all climate...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Actually refute? How about this. Satellites that measure the infrared spectra have been orbitting the planet for decades. Decades of laboratory measurements produced experimental results for what we should expect to find. In 2001, Nature published a paper which compared the measurements by the...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    No, I consider calls from people to investigate all climate scientists who use grants to be McCarthyism. Especially when they start throwing around various US codes that could be used to indict them (that would be Senator Inhoffe.) All of this without the proper regard for evidence. I have no...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Yes, only without properly referenced points. Hence my challenge to you in a more formalized style of debating these points. My discussion will be focused on establishing that the warming signal and many corollaries we measure is predominantly a function of an enhanced greenhouse effect. Your...
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    Death knell for AGW

    I'm talking about scholarship. You make your case, with references. Then I'll make mine. Or I can go first. Afterward each would have a chance to respond to points in the others presenation, and then maybe one or two rounds of responses to responses. With references. Can you do that? Or do you...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Say bye bye to the baby...
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    Death knell for AGW

    You wouldn't know science if it punched you in the face. Care to debate this topic formally? With references, and the works? You know, like actual science debates? I'd chew you up and spit you out. I understand if you're not up to it. It doesn't seem like you have much experience with formal...
  18. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    The point is related to what Walter said. Comprende? Or do I need to slow down and explain it to you?
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    You must think all the posters here are stupid. Posters here aren't as stupid as you think at all, and most have an understandig better than you. Here's how this train wreck started: See, here I used a pole reversal as the extreme of your own hypothesis. If magnetic poles migrating means...
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    Our cooling world

    Yes... well the Mertz Glacier used to extend out into the sea for 160 kilometers past the grounding line, and it's now half of that.