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  1. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    I don't spawn fish at work Cletus. We research and develop vaccines and pharmaceuticals. Another subject that is way over your head I'm sure. Go back to your crank websites like What's wrong with Watts.
  2. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    No, I don't want the opinion of a physicist. You're just appealing to authority. I actually look at the data; you seem pathologically disinclined to consider data. If I were to consider the opinion of a physicist, it wouldn't be any physicist like Hal Lewis, I'd consider someone who has at least...
  3. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    It is. AGW denial and how the ignorant are scammed by unscientific nonsense that denies established science. It's not about carbon pricing mechanisms, or farming. I wasn't discussing that, and you were the one who responded to me. The Petros kind of moron would. The same kind who fallaciously...
  4. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    2010 tied for the warmest year on record, in a deep solar minimum, and where the last half of the year we experienced a strong La Nina, a magnitude that hasn't been seen since the mid-70's. So, it seems a bit foolish to postulate the next ice age is around the corner.
  5. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    :lol: If you still can't get it, try Hooked on Phonics. I was discussing physics, not your farm, not pricing mechanisms, not where Cletus and his wife travel for vacation on carbon credit money. Good night Cletus. :tool:
  6. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Why is the consistency of your stool irrelevant to the price of tea in China? It just is, because the subjects are unrelated, not relevant to one another. Apparently the English language isn't one of your strengths either. Someone paying you, allegedly for nothing, is completely unrelated to...
  7. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    I have no idea what you do, or who pays you what, and I don't care. Start a thread where this would be relevant. Maybe someone will indulge in your irrelevant off-topic questioning when cornered.
  8. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    See. You're much more comfortable living in a world of conspiracies. Glad I could help you sort that out.
  9. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    You quote Einstein, here's a quote of his about certainty: As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. Science does not deal with 100% certainty, even less so than mathematics. Measurement error...
  10. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    That's about the response I would expect when you can't comment intelligently on analysis of climate fingerprints. We can call it a duck test if you like. If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, eats like a duck, looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, chances are pretty good that it's...
  11. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Ahhh, more climate truther wit. It almost writes itself. Don't bother addressing the science Petros, we all know it's over your head anyways. Shouldn't you be outside shaking your fist at the airplanes leaving contrails above your ground? :lol:
  12. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    I've seen lots of coverage of the snow and turbulent weather. Google news will bring you articles discussing the La Nina and the Australian floods. See for yourself. 2010, a year in a deep solar minimum, and a year which had a larger La Nina, and for longer than the El Nino, we have...
  13. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    So there's the kernel of truth in what drives denialism. You wouldn't even consider the actual science-and in fact you don't if you're relying on mainstream media- except that you find some of the proposed solutions unpalatable, ignoring that economists have found solutions cost less up front...
  14. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    What are you talking about?
  15. Tonington

    It's the Sun, Stupid.

    All based on a conceptual model with no empirical evidence! You're a case study in pseudoscientific beliefs Beaver :lol:
  16. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Yeah, the CO2 plant food meme is idiotic...first, carbon dioxide isn't the first limiting nutrient, so Liebig's law of the minimum states that addition of an unlimiting nutrient will provide only slight improvement in yield, if at all. One other important distinction is which carbon fixation...
  17. Tonington

    It's the Sun, Stupid.

    Re: It's the Sun, Stupi Of course it can't, and it isn't. Without the 1365 +/-1 Watts of solar irradience, a climate model would depict Earth as a snowball. But this wasn't a climate model, if you think this paper was then you need to actually read it for yourself. There is a huge difference...
  18. Tonington

    It's the Sun, Stupid.

    That is a large pile of crap. Temperature correlations with carbon dioxide? The forcing factor for carbon dioxide is small, while the forcing factor for seasonal changes, and internal variables like ENSO are huge. The auto-correlation will be dominated by this natural variability, unless you...
  19. Tonington

    It's the Sun, Stupid.

    Re: It's the Sun, Stupi Well your suggestion is without merit. As I said, there are experiments you can perform all by yourself to show the radiative impact. You can even have controls so that you're sure that the only variable that has changed is the concentration of greenhouse gas. Your...
  20. Tonington

    It's the Sun, Stupid.

    Re: It's the Sun, Stupi Wrong, the absorptive ability. Gases and aerosols which reflect have a negative radiative forcing, not a positive radiative forcing. And there is actual evidence of this. You can perform experiments yourself with simple equipment.