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    Lethal Atlantic salmon virus found on the West Coast

    At work today this spawned a lot of conversation. For some context, the virus is a flu-like virus that causes a disease called Infectious Salmon Anemia. In Atlantic salmon populations this virus can cause massive mortality, greater than 70%, all the way up to 100% in naive (having no...
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    Mountain pine beetles transition to new species

    The pine beetles are in the beginning phase of a massive range expansion. Winter temperatures are now rarely cold enough to keep the beetle larvae in check, and every year the beetles kill more lodgepole pine. This expansion in range has brought them to the forests in Alberta, where the forest...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Keep telling yourself that. The odds were 50/50 according to Mark Serreze, a polar researcher. A NASA ice rsarcher put it just under 50/50. Another researcher put it at about 1/4. 50/50 odds could have been wrong, but the fact that it didn't happen doesn't mean the odds were wrong. I'm not...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    So what were the odds then in Jun of 2008? You say it's crap, but that's all you have. That and your horendous track record with understanding math and stats. You said cooling. Let's look at the other months: July No coincidence there either... How about June: Hmm, not there either...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    That's called teleconnections...notice how the oceans aren't cooling like you claimed?
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    They aren't? There is no coincidence...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    So you say...without any reasoning. Just because you say so isn't a good enough answer.. It would be pointless... La Nina cools areas of the Pacific, but through teleconnections in the global climate produces impacts across the globe. Global cooling is not one of them...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Reading comprehension fail. Nah, you just like to make stuff up, and ignore that a roughly 50-50 chance could be an actual probability. It's in the OP, the weather events at the time of that statement could not say positively that the North Pol might melt that summer. But the conditions that...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    If you think an event not happening means that a probabilistic statement is wrong, then yes, probability vexes you.
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    You would. It's ok to admit that probability vexes you.
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Get your eyesight checked out, the date on the OP is June 28, 2008. That that summer may have seen an ice free North Pole was a probabilistic statement. If I say the odds are 50-50 that you roll a 1, or a 2, or a 3 on a fair six sided die, and you roll a 5, the probabilistic statement wasn't...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    Did you not read the opening post?
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    So? The Arctic is huge. You could spend 6 years in many places and not see the work that is done by scientists... Some scientists do rely on satellite data sets and some do not; it was a Canadian Scientist who reported on the "rotten" ice conditions that the satellites couldn't detect. He went...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    No, June, and the scientist who made the announcement put the odds at 50-50. The event not happening doesn't mean the stated probability was wrong...
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    This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

    [/SIZE] The thread is about an ice free North Pole...ice extent charts don't actually show the North Pole, but nice try anyways Walt. By the way it was a record year in the Arctic, for minimum ice volume and minimum total area.
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    Mental illness rise linked to climate change

    The title of the thread/media outlet already removed the could be, that is to say they removed the caveats. Popular press sucks at reporting research results.
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    Gov. Rick Perry, Uneducated Ignoramus

    Says Dawkins: (Oh yes and apologies for the long cut and paste, but Dawkin's hit a grand slam with this one, with his usual heaping tablespoon of snark)Attention Governor Perry: Evolution is a fact Q. Texas governor and GOP candidate Rick Perry, at a campaign event this week, told a...
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    Canadian Blood Services...full of crap

    So the organization itself does good work, and actually needs to do a better job at educating the general public about the need for blood donations. But if you go to their website, and read their section "Find out what your blood type says about you", you will come away with anything but...
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    Libertarian Island, doomed to fail, or not?

    Silicon Valley billionaire funding creation of artificial libertarian islands | The Lookout - Yahoo! NewsPay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of...