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  1. Tonington

    Capitalist compares rich Americans treatment to that of Jews in Nazi Germany

    What unbelievable stupidity, a very weird twist on Godwin's law. The former venture capitalist of Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, a famous tech investment firm in the Silicone Valley, has really stepped in it. The firm was quick to distance itself from Perkins comments, that equated the...
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    Death knell for AGW

    You're spewing nonsense, you don't deserve a break. In fact you went out and ended up posting a blog post that is evidence against what you said in the first place. That you are too lazy to look into these things deserves no break in criticism. So quit whining and smarten up. Mann used a...
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    Death knell for AGW

    No, my beef is that you can't get Mann's hockey stick by plotting red noise. McIntyre and McKitrick needed much more math than a simple random number generator, and more to the point, they never removed the trend that was there in the first place. So why should we be surprised then that they...
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    Death knell for AGW

    I'm familiar with Deep Climate's blog-it's quite good, but it's clear you haven't read this blog post. I've read it before. Just so you're clear, there is a huge difference between plotting trend-less red noise (what McIntyre and McKitrick called it), and modelling pseudo-proxies from actual...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Yes, graphical representation of data is clearly a means to an end, but no, it is very much a part of objective research. The hockey stick is a result of the information in the data, not the processing of the data. This is clear when you analyze all the data without the principle component...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Non-sequitur. Libel is defamation. Claiming fraud is much different than just claiming someone is wrong.
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    Death knell for AGW

    When you're cited as much as he is, why would you? You think he cares that you think he's wrong? :lol:
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    Death knell for AGW

    8O Where did you read that!? That's probably the most ridiculous thing you've ever posted in one of these threads. Climate is deterministic, it's a response, and every reconstruction ever attempted by a climatologist shows trends. The sorts of trends we're talking about can not be replicated...
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    Jewelers and Fisherman urge EPA to protect Bristol Bay

    The EPA assessment report notes that even under routine operation, the mine would destroy up to 94 miles of salmon stream, and over 5000 acres of wetland, lakes, and ponds. 8O Bristol Bay being the most productive salmon fishery in the world, employing 14,000 and with an annual value of nearly...
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    New source of Omega-3 longchain fatty acids

    So, not all long chain fatty acids confer health benefits. Flax seed for example is a healthy food choice, but the Omega 3 fatty acid you find in flax seed is alpha linoleic acid, which isn't as heart healthy as other types. Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid(DHA) are the long...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Previous cycles were driven by our planets orbital mechanics. Currently we are not experiencing more insolation at all. That's a huge difference. The cycle of glacials and interglacials is dominated by orbital changes and greenhouse feedbacks to those changes. This shouldn't be news to anyone...
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    Death knell for AGW

    So what if there were no anthropogenic forcings? Of course there were not, and why would you think that matters? So you're like Petros then, you bring up comparisons but fail to appreciate the difference between the scenarios, a difference which matters. It's not assumption that we have a...
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    Death knell for AGW

    It is interesting indeed, and more than that it's necessary. It's quite different from today, but these past periods are one part of where climate sensitivity estimates come from.
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    Death knell for AGW

    According to you? Tell me what's the relative change in each of those forcings over the past century, then we can haggle about what amongst your claims is malarkey. Yes... like the sun. If you make a list of all the factors controlling climate, it's pretty long. If you make a list of the...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Wrong. Both, and more, control climate.
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    Death knell for AGW

    The point is the papers on that list don't support what the author claims. That's called being skeptical. Maybe I'm unconventional, I actually go to the source instead of trusting anonymous bloggers to be accurate in their assertions of what the papers they cite actually support. I figured most...
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    Death knell for AGW

    :lol: Yeah right. A list of papers that includes 'solar' keyword more like it. How does this paper (the third on the list) demonstrate that the sun controls climate and not man-made CO2? Observational data indicate a weakening and poleward shift of the subtropical tropospheric jets in the...
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    Reddit bans comments from global warming skeptics

    And all of those get a big, so what? None of these tell us anything about the changes happening now. They simply provide the context, and the observations on which projections from our current climate change are based. I notice you're still actually avoiding the comparison of then and now. :lol:
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    Reddit bans comments from global warming skeptics

    The scare crow wants to keep up the straw man argument ehh? One trick pony.
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    Reddit bans comments from global warming skeptics

    Ok, play dumb then scare crow. Yes, we sure are. Indeed it is. Glad to see you're coming around finally. My emphasis bolded. Yep. Now if you could only realize the difference between now and the past three, you'd be onto something. By necessity compare... See, you skip over the...