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    Socialists in a Panic

    Blah blah blah. Whatever. I think you're out-to-lunch and am tired of this particular aspect of the conversation.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Increased CO2 benefits SOME botanical life on land and in a couple of instances it benefits life in the oceans, if it doesn't acidify the water too much. Nonsense. Things have died before and we found out about it after they've died off. They leave traces. Yes, basing policy on unknowns is...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Actually it looked to me as if you displayed a penchant for it and then tried twisting out of it by projecting it onto Tonington.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Actually it does. You seem to think that just because there's a smaller value of change than before it means that the temperature has cooled, It didn't. The temperature still increased, just hasn't increased by as much. The left side is the change in temperature. The time frame between each...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    RateS. :laughing3:You mean all those dots in the graph came from one single instant? The time frame appears to be from 1998 to 2008.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Wrong. Flourishing is a relative term. There is a massive amount more life in the oceans than on land and all of it needs oxygen. Warm it and the oxygen goes. Add CO2 and it acidifies. Quit being obtuse. Is that what I said? No. It stands to reason that if we know of some species we've killed...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    There's not been much snow removal here. It's been a warm winter with little snow. A bit of reading, chores, snowshoeing, eating, sleeping, playing, etc. Why?
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    Death knell for AGW

    wow! I wonder how many here can picture the consequences of the old ice disappearing. Toasty summers tanning on the sands of Beaufort beaches?
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    Death knell for AGW

    Balogna. No-one will profit from all this transfering? I doubt it, too. It's carbon capitalism. If there's money to be made anywhere, you can bet your fesses there's capitalism in the works. Isn't being interested in nothing more than money capitalism?
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    Death knell for AGW

    And there's a big difference between the old ice and the young ice. But there is an average: northern ice is disappearing as southern ice is gaining area. http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
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    Death knell for AGW

    Because there are too many people spouting off about their opinion before they understand the circumstances and they don't accept new info and data especially if it contradicts their unshakeable opinion. Hence the application of descriptive terms like "flat-earthers" and others. lol
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    Death knell for AGW

    Generally from the northern temperate zone to the north pole is freezing. the tropics are warmer and the southern hemisphere is hot. Climate change is based on average mean temperatures of the entire planet (among other variables), not just one hemisphere. So it may be one frigid winter in the...
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    Death knell for AGW

    A watt = voltage x amperage. 1 W = ! V x ! A. Besides the difference between "watt" and "what", this is a hypothesis, not a theory. Theories use facts, hypotheses are just guesses.
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    Death knell for AGW

    Pretty much. Capitalism got its greedy little mitts on a new idea and is running with it. What happens is that whatever people think, we are messing up the planet and all that is happening is that these gimmicks that interested parties develop have more to do with making money than having to do...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Screwing up the planet or playing political games? My stance is that I cannot see what difference it makes making money from cleaner sources of energy than from oil. The players are just different. Conservation Ecology: Bridging the Gap Between Economics and Ecology IMO, there doesn't need to...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Quit screwing up the planet. We already give undeveloped nations lots, I can't see where giving them more will change anything.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Gods will what? They'll allow us to send biodiversity into the crapper? They'll send another big flood? Ice age? Sit back and laugh at us? What will they do?
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    Death knell for AGW

    With all due respect, I think you missed the point I was making. Walter keeps posting stuff about record lows, so I just post stuff about record highs. Weather happens. Walter cannot seem to grasp the concept of CLIMATE. So? Last I heard fog was a factor in weather patterns.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    http://www.actionbioscience.org/newfrontiers/eldredge2.html If you scroll down you'll see a list of references to read about depletion of biodiversity. I'll add a bit more: http://archive.wri.org/newsroom/wrifeatures_text.cfm?ContentID=580 etc. etc. etc. [/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Right, it's not. It's an observation. Apparently, Ex isn't exactly sure of what a strawman argument is either.