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Here's a list for those that didn't get a program to try'n keep up with the show: Who’s at the Climate Talks, and What Do They Seek? - Graphic - NYTimes.com

China....Saudi Arabia....all of OPEC....yep...the list of open hands is long.

So NOAA is a reputable source for the raw data, & somebody cherry-picked the two sources (southern Greenland but at a high altitude, and the spot down in Antarctica for the really old data) to present the graphs I posted to back their agenda in order to display the information they had...

I'm blown away that this Thread is on page #103. Forgive me for not reviewing all 103 pages, as this might already have been covered & answered already, but how would this fit into the discussion? Based on data From: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/metadata/noaa-icecore-2475.html...

The only thing I can say about Monckton is that he was & is very willing to debate Gore.....and Gore isn't willing to debate anyone. They're the opposite ends way far out on this argument. Both will sell you the Snake Oil you desire....just step right up and have your wallet handy. Picture...

I just don't see a whole lot of difference between Christopher Monckton and Al Gore. They're just different ends of the spectrum of this debate. Trust what either says if you wish, but only as far as you can physically throw either of them. I think Monckton weighs less than Gore...but you...

I never stated that CRU's data should be thrown out...I asked if it had been. That's all. Read what you want into it. Some of us aren't polarized on the issue, and are still in the middle.

Hey...I'm just a layman asking a laymen's question. Just one of the Mob, like you and everyone else on the planet. No reason to get upset. I thought it was a Yes or No answer to my question. My mistake. Do the results put forth by CRU differ significantly from those put forth by GISS or...

So...is this CRU capable of replicating it's own findings to prove that a Fudge Factor wasn't involved, so as to remove any controversy surrounding itself? If not, then its findings are being dismissed or ignored, and not being used to base any future policy upon, right?

Do Research Scientists usually dispose of their Raw Data once they're come to some kind of conclusion with their results? Is this a normal procedure? The Raw Data, once a conclusion is decided upon, no longer has any value? :-?

Weird question with respect to this CRU. I've only read this Thread and not much else. I don't know what's true or not, but it sounds like this CRU exaggerated the results that it found? If this is true....the big question would be, are the results put forth by this CRU significantly...

Funny you specificly mention NASA, as they're in the news today, being sued to release data on this subject. Weird... Debate has already been done with all the facts laid out on all sides...publicly, for all to examine each other's data....without agendas? Nothing hidden or held back or...

Aren't both sides buying the science, and attempting to influence those that can dictate policy for profit? Hasn't it been shown that both sides are complacent in some pretty shady behavior? Perhaps now it's time to open up the raw data to both sides, so that the results from both sides can...

This Thread isn't about 'big'.....so please feel free to take the Thread back to "(insert Thread subject here)" as indicated by the Thread title. Thank You.

This Thread isn't about 'big'.....so please feel free to take the Thread back to "(insert Thread subject here)" as indicated by the Thread title. Thank You.

The suffix 'gate' in "Watergate" means nothing in relation to a scandal. The famous break-in in 1972 happened to take place in the Watergate Hotel Complex in Washington D.C. The name of the complex was derived from the terraced steps west of the Lincoln Memorial that lead down to the Potomac...

I was responding to someone on this Thread reporting this Name Calling. None of this needs to be taking place during the Game, or not during the Game as far as it goes....

The side that needs to call the other side names demonstrates a weakness in either their argument or debating skills. Be that calling someone a Contrarian or a Heretic or a Denier or what have you.... What name calling has Walter had to lower himself to doing? If it has happened, then I've...

OK....what on Earth are you talking about? Feel free to explain and Thank You in advance for a non-cryptic explanation.

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