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I'm not tired of it at all, but I am very short on time available to continue, as you are no doubt aware, due to my not getting back to you for a week. Bullfeathers!! Governments and corporations have bowed to the political reality. Academics have either embraced the political bandwagon, or...

Hmmm... You point out the varying solar output over the millenia, and I point out that it parallels what I've been saying all along, and then you call it bunk research. 8O If both sides' research reaches the same conclusion it's bunk???8O Yeah, so? It was still warmer. That's the only point...

Except that the study I posted shows the opposite effect.

Kinda supports what I've been saying. If you go back through my posts you'll see where I've said that evidence indicates that it was much warmer than now 7000 years ago (old growth forests then where there are glaciers now) that it was warmer during the medieval climate optimum, that today is...

Yes, actually, back on page 6 of this thread, lower half. It's well known that particulate from volcanic eruptions have a considerable cooling effect on the earth, in fact it's believed that a series of massive eruptions was partly responsible for the Little Ice Age. But it seems that human...

:lol:Your problem is you are so young. I was there. That statement is from an actual article, to the best of my knowledge. I remember the hysteria clearly, if not the exact words, it was just like the global warming hysteria, only the environmental movement wasn't nearly as influential as now...

Activists with an agenda have strong convictions. Science (real science) relies on evidence, and strong conclusions are only stated when the evidence is irrefutable. For instance, mass has gravity, the earth revolves around the sun, the universe is expanding. These are irrefutable. But for...

Lots of links and more relevant graphs here.

Now that's so true, and it's the problem with the global warming alarmism, IPCC included. It's all politics.

Yes. That's the thing about real science, they always phrase their conclusions with caveats. Actually it is happening, they just don't know if it will persist, thereby becoming a significant trend. Well there hasn't been one since we started studying sun spots (thankfully, it was an awful time...

Tonington's mind is made up. Confusing him with the facts won't change that!:lol:

You weren't paying attention. The colder the air, the less able it is to hold water, which means less snowfall. Warmer air holds more water, meaning more snowfall in Antarctica. Of course, warming from -45 to -40 means it still doesn't melt, but the additional accumulating snow turns to more...

Guess you missed this little quote a few posts back: It's both. Solar activity variance includes sunspot variance, which delivers more energy to the earth as well as affecting the sun's magnetic field which in turn affects incoming cosmic rays which have a huge impact on gobal climate, and...

The heat is "trapped" in all matter that's affected by the increased solar activity, and oceans are the biggest reservoirs of heat. While CO2 mitigates severe temperature swings, increasing it, even doubling it has little effect on global temperatures. Climate scientists? Really, you want...

George Carlin - The Planet Is Fine :lol: It's people who are f'cked

:lol:It's called the sun, you know, that big fiery ball in the sky? When it warms a little, the oceans warm too, and release huge amounts of CO2. Human contribution sounds immense, but it's a tiny fraction of what nature emits. Actually, we aren't losing it, it's increasing. Sea ice in the...

Nonsense. If that were the case, the stratosphere would be hot, but the atmosphere down here wouldn't. It's the CO2 throughout the atmosphere that provides the mitigating effect of temperature extremes that makes life possible on earth.

Well, duh, that's what the whole debate is about, the absorption of infrared heat by CO2 that is radiated out away from the planet. And it isn't about bouncing back (aka - reflecting). If that were the case, increased CO2 in the atmosphere would result in global cooling, as it would reflect...

Actually, we could use all that fertilizer. It would be great on the fields where the feed is grown, but the costs of transporting it back is prohibitive. Thus, a useful commodity (high value organic fertilzer) becomes a waste disposal problem. Like you I don't like feed lots, or...

Problem with these predictions is they so often fail. The only reason more extreme events were predicted was because the predicted increases in temperature failed to materialize, and they needed something to scare us with. And there seems to be a considerable amount of cherry picking involved...