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  1. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    You need to use a little perspective here. The emmense (sp) amounts of CO2 gas that we put into the atmosphere only amount to 3% of the total input. Immense it may be, but it's tiny in relation to the total, which means any human influence would be negligible at most. And since the science...
  2. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    This may come as a surprise to you, but I do have a life, and this forum is a very minor part of it. I'm sure you've noticed how infrequently I respond. That's because I have other interest that take up my time, the main one of which is wood turning. I may not be able to respond to all posts...
  3. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Sure, there's other climate drivers, such as cosmic rays. But it all depends on the sun. It's known that the increase in irradiance isn't enough to account for the increased global temps. However it's also known that the action of cosmic rays and clouds in combination with the increased...
  4. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    There's this to consider; Weather events such as hurricanes are formed by the contrast of warm and cold air/water coming into contact. The greater the difference in temperature, the greater the chance of hurricanes and severity of same. But with global warming, the equatorial areas tend to...
  5. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Can't cite any study, just commenting on info I've come across in articles. Your suggestion that sulfates easily reached the stratosphere for 30 years but can't now seems lame. I do know that the idea was part of the first 2 IPCC reports, but no mention in the 3rd at all. If, as you suggest...
  6. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    The climate driver is the sun, which fluctuates all the time. There is the 11 year sunspot cycle, the 87 year Gleissberg cycle and the 210 year DeVries-Suess cycle of solar irradiance. There is also unimpeachable geological evidence of a past warming and cooling cycle of about 1500 years...
  7. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Is that all??? The alarmists get 5 billion a year to misrepresent the science and scare school children.
  8. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Well, you said this: to Jimshort. So no, I guess you don't believe we're not ever going to have another ice age. As for its imminence, I guess I have to know what you mean by that word. In human terms, no it isn't, I don't expect my grandchildren to live long enough to see it. In geological...
  9. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Actually, research indicates that areas producing lots of sulfates are warmer than those that don't. The sulfate theory was put forward by the IPCC in 1990 when they were challenged to explain the 30 year cooling period from the 1940's to the 1970's at a time when there was massive increase in...
  10. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    According to scientists, the ice is increasing over 97% of Antarctica and the northern part of Greenland. So we don't have to worry about any flooding from that source. Also they say that if it was melting it would take 7000 years, more than enough time to adapt our lifestyles.
  11. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    :lol: Actually, polar bears do like global warming, their population explodes during warming periods.
  12. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    I keep forgetting how young you are. I lived through it, and if I'd known you wanted names and records I would have kept notes. But you weren't around to tell me so I didn't. I actually believed that one; it was before I learned not to worry about all the dire predictions of approaching...
  13. Extrafire

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    What he's referring to Walter, is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. In the past, as you can see in the graph below, temperature fluctuations always preceded CO2 fluctuations, either up or down. It's quite clear and has been known to science for some time that CO2 increases are a result of...
  14. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    In the '70's it was much more than small circles who were predicting an anthropologically caused ice age, in fact the first earth day was greatly concerned with that imminent event, caused by burning of fossil fuels. That's not at all the same thing. The evidence is the recurring pattern. Are...
  15. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    It's in the ice core record. Before the current AGW delusion became so prominent, scientists used to issue a warning every year or so that we were on the cusp of a new ice age, overdue in fact. This isn't all that clear a graph, but check the temperature. The 0 line of the graph is our...
  16. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    People keep saying that stuff, even though the massive reduction in ice this year has been shown to be primarily a matter of wind, not temperature. And the polar bear population is in the middle of a population explosion, 5 times the number that there were 50 years ago. For a species who's...
  17. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Just out of curiosity, isn't that Hansen fellow in charge of Goddard? You know, the guy who's a warming alarmist with the computer models. Wouldn't you think he would jump at the chance to prove AGW? I can't help wondering if perhaps he's the one keeping it in storage. Like he was afraid...
  18. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    1990 baseline was chosen so that England could get credit for their already converted coal to oil and natural gas. So Germany could get credit for the already mothballed East German industry. So France could get credit for their already converted/converting coal to nuclear electrical...
  19. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    I assume you're trying to make a point here but I can't figure out what it is. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with the Aral Sea either. It's dried up a lot over the last century, but the population has multiplied 7 times. Kind of the opposite of what you've been saying isn't it...
  20. Extrafire

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    :lol: Good point! Weather forecasting is one of the very few professions where you can fail 95% of the time and not lose your job! But I still watch them and tend to believe them anyway!:roll: Other people believe astrologers. Hope springs eternal...