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What's the point here? I mean, one would have to be a fool to believe that idiotic tale that the American gov't came up with, and so far one would have to be just as much a fool to believe the conspiracy is as broad as to cover politicians, people that were in the buildings, cops, demolition...

wow Would it ever. Major downsizing there.

I didn't know. Which is why I asked. Why should I leap to assumptions like you did? Right. There's a paragraph there. Then there's another link: Jones may submit a correction to his 1990 paper – Keenan responds | Watts Up With That? which is an excerpt from another link : 'Climategate'...

I hung my hat where? Didja follow all the links to the end? Which one did I hang my hat on? Fourth Assessment Report from the IPCC

You do enough of that yourself. :)

So ? The most interesting thing about your comment on it is .... is ..... is .... AHAH! I knew I would think of something. It doesn't address the science.

climate science: JONES CONSIDERS CORRECTING PAPER ON UHI What is the UHI in the Antarctica, Alps, Brazilian rainforest, or middle of the Atlantic? Why is there no difference between calm days and windy days in UHI? UHI is a local thing and is hardly applicable to the whole planet.

Really. All he's doing is relying on other people's expertise and coming up with his own hypothesis. Big deal. His "evidence" is no better than any other nut's evidence.

So last winter the north pole must have been somewhere in Russia because we sure had a warm one. And the winter before it must have been here because it was chilly. Anyway, please explain how the diminishing magnetic field wandering around causes global warming, again? What happened to the heat...

$7000 for us to put in microhydro and solar. $5000 to convert a vehicle to a completely electric drive. Growing our own food is immensely cheaper than buying it. And so on. Each remedy we do a little at a time. The rich can afford it but don't seem to want to. They can't conceive of a life...

Yeah. Personally, we never expected anyone to leap into bankruptcy complying to green standards. We downsized our impact by a large percentage but we set our own rate and we are still downsizing our impact at our own rate. IE, it took us about a half year to develop our microhydro energy system...

lol I think you've made your position pretty clear, Cpt. :) But, please excuse us if we don't follow the same opinion.

What to do about global warming Quit polluting. lol And what are those effects?

Guilty. But I was only following your lead. :) Sorry, **** before shovel. You started it. Like I said, how do you know you aren't projecting your character flaws onto him? Here's some condescension: I don't think you can help yourself, but that's ok, we still love you. :) Anytime you people...

Wow! Back in kiddiegarden. You know for someone that complained that Tonington attacks posters and whatnot, you seem to be right up there with what you accused him of. lmao Who cares whether you get it or not? "Called on it"? About what? Petros said the whole thing was concocted by Marxists...

Duh, yo! Its cold in the shaid heer. Muss be globle cooling, huh?

Big deal. What does that prove? When they had summer it was one of the hottest on record. What isn't unusual is some people being confused about weather anomalies and climate. I repeat what Pet said, "Cooling eh? When it was winter here people claimed "it's cold". Now that it is winter in the...

I agree that the official tale is exactly that, a tale. My problem is that the conspiracy nuts haven't come up with a viable alternative as to what happened.

Ahnode Shortzpecker did it all by himself. There was no conspiracy. He flew one plane into a building jumped out a window, leaped on board another plane and ran it into a building, Leaped out a window and drove a plane into the Pentagon. And what squished WTC7 was when the Terminator leaped out...

:roll: I agree cutting back consumption is good, but you have to think about HOW its done. We have 2 tvs. We only use one at a time. EF moans about alt energy subsidies. lol http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/subsidy2/pdf/execsum.pdf So it's ok to provide massive subsidies for dirty...