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“I believe one should take the American president seriously when he says that he wants Greenland,” Frederiksen said in the interview, according to a translation from Bloomberg.

“But I will also make it clear that if the U.S. chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, then everything stops, including NATO and thus the security that has been established since the end of the Second World War,” she continued.

Frederiksen issued an earlier statement fiercely defending Greenland against Trump’s threats, saying, “It makes absolutely no sense to speak of any necessity for the United States to take over Greenland. The United States has no legal basis to annex one of the three countries of the Kingdom of Denmark.”

Frederiksen noted Greenland, by virtue of being part of Denmark, is part of the NATO alliance and pointed to Denmark’s agreement granting the U.S. broad access to Greenland.

“I therefore strongly urge the United States to cease its threats against a historically close ally, and against another country and another people who have stated very clearly that they are not for sale,” Frederiksen said.
 

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“I believe one should take the American president seriously when he says that he wants Greenland,” Frederiksen said in the interview, according to a translation from Bloomberg.

“But I will also make it clear that if the U.S. chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, then everything stops, including NATO and thus the security that has been established since the end of the Second World War,” she continued.

Frederiksen issued an earlier statement fiercely defending Greenland against Trump’s threats, saying, “It makes absolutely no sense to speak of any necessity for the United States to take over Greenland. The United States has no legal basis to annex one of the three countries of the Kingdom of Denmark.”

Frederiksen noted Greenland, by virtue of being part of Denmark, is part of the NATO alliance and pointed to Denmark’s agreement granting the U.S. broad access to Greenland.

“I therefore strongly urge the United States to cease its threats against a historically close ally, and against another country and another people who have stated very clearly that they are not for sale,” Frederiksen said.
Everyone has a price .
 

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Everyone has a price .
Trump sees acquiring Greenland as a U.S. national security priority necessary to "deter our adversaries in the Arctic region," the White House said in a statement?

NATO members can generally use each other's territories for military bases and operations, but it’s based on mutual agreement and host nation consent, with some historical exceptions like Nordic nations' restrictions; NATO itself doesn't own bases, relying on national contributions, but forces operate within allied land under NATO command structures for exercises or deployments.
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Some members, like Denmark, Norway, and Iceland (founding members), initially had agreements limiting permanent peacetime bases or foreign military activity on their soil, though these have evolved (e.g., U.S. base in Greenland).

"The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. military is always an option at the commander-in-chief's disposal," the White House said.
Greenland has repeatedly said it does not want to be part of the United States. Leaders from major European powers and Canada rallied behind the Arctic territory on Tuesday, saying it belongs to its people.
Each NATO member is sovereign. When one nation wants to build a base or deploy significant forces in another, it's done with the specific permission and agreement of the host country, often formalized through Status of Forces Agreements (SOFAs).
A U.S. military seizure of Greenland from a longtime ally, Denmark, would send shock waves through the NATO alliance and deepen the divide between Trump and European leaders…so that’s a price I guess. While most Greenlanders favour eventual independence from Denmark, opinion polls show overwhelming opposition to becoming part of the US.
 

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Trump sees acquiring Greenland as a U.S. national security priority necessary to "deter our adversaries in the Arctic region," the White House said in a statement?

NATO members can generally use each other's territories for military bases and operations, but it’s based on mutual agreement and host nation consent, with some historical exceptions like Nordic nations' restrictions; NATO itself doesn't own bases, relying on national contributions, but forces operate within allied land under NATO command structures for exercises or deployments.
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Some members, like Denmark, Norway, and Iceland (founding members), initially had agreements limiting permanent peacetime bases or foreign military activity on their soil, though these have evolved (e.g., U.S. base in Greenland).

"The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. military is always an option at the commander-in-chief's disposal," the White House said.
Greenland has repeatedly said it does not want to be part of the United States. Leaders from major European powers and Canada rallied behind the Arctic territory on Tuesday, saying it belongs to its people.
Each NATO member is sovereign. When one nation wants to build a base or deploy significant forces in another, it's done with the specific permission and agreement of the host country, often formalized through Status of Forces Agreements (SOFAs).
A U.S. military seizure of Greenland from a longtime ally, Denmark, would send shock waves through the NATO alliance and deepen the divide between Trump and European leaders…so that’s a price I guess. While most Greenlanders favour eventual independence from Denmark, opinion polls show overwhelming opposition to becoming part of the US.
NATO has pretty much outlived its usefulness , imo .
 

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NATO has pretty much outlived its usefulness , imo .
If the militarily powerful in NATO can cannibalize (or threatened to) other NATO nations less militarily powerful in the same defence pact, then I would concur with your assessment of the situation.

It had its 75-ish years, & I guess Putin doesn’t have to worry about Ukraine joining NATO at this point, so glass half full for someone.

NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) was formed on April 4, 1949, with the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty in Washington D.C., primarily to provide collective security against Soviet expansion in post-World War II Europe, deterring aggression and fostering stability through a military alliance. It united North America and Western European nations, ensuring that an attack on one member would be considered an attack on all (Article 5).
 

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If the militarily powerful in NATO can cannibalize (or threatened to) other NATO nations less militarily powerful in the same defence pact, then I would concur with your assessment of the situation.

It had its 75-ish years, & I guess Putin doesn’t have to worry about Ukraine joining NATO at this point, so glass half full for someone.

NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) was formed on April 4, 1949, with the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty in Washington D.C., primarily to provide collective security against Soviet expansion in post-World War II Europe, deterring aggression and fostering stability through a military alliance. It united North America and Western European nations, ensuring that an attack on one member would be considered an attack on all (Article 5).
And in that seventy five year history it has done little more than create a bureaucracy and piggy back on the U.S.
 

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During the second Trump administration the United States has engaged in hybrid warfareand subversive activity against Greenland, an autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark. The official Danish threat assessment published by the Danish Defence Intelligence Service in 2025 for the first time in its history mentioned the United States as a threat to national security, alongside Russia and China.
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Trump has repeatedly refused to rule out using force to seize the strategic Arctic island, prompting shock and anger from Denmark and other longstanding European allies of the United States.
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After a request from Copenhagen to clear up misunderstandings, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said he would soon hold discussions with Danish representatives.
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"I'll be meeting with them next week. We'll have those conversations with them then," Rubio told reporters.
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White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said that Trump and his national security team have "actively discussed" the option of buying Greenland with themselves? By force?
The US has deep pockets, but Greenland is not for sale, according to both Nuuk and Copenhagen.
European leaders, including in France and Germany, have announced they are working on a plan in the event the United States follows through on its threat to take over Greenland as tensions soar.

French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot told France Inter radio on Wednesday that while nations want to act if the US moves to seize Greenland from an ally, Denmark, they want to do so “together with our European partners”.

“I myself was on the phone with the [US] Secretary of State [Marco Rubio] yesterday… He discarded the idea that what just happened in Venezuela could happen in Greenland,” Barrot said.
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In fiscal year (FY) 2024, the United States made $117.9 billion in government-facilitated arms sales (Foreign Military Sales) to all allies and partners, a figure that includes a significant amount to NATO countries. The total value of all U.S. arms exports, including direct commercial sales, reached a record of $318.7 billion in FY 2024. Would that continue if America continues on its current course? Do any of the NATO members really want to find out if America really has a kill switch on the F35’s or not for example?
(YouTube & Trump Puts the Squeeze on Venezuela's Oil & Eyes Greenland as Next Target)
 

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And through that, we didn’t enter World War IIl 30 years after World War II, like we entered World War II 30 years after World War I. Oh well.
And we were never really close to WW3 . Russia has never tried to conquer Europe unlike Europeans wanting to take Russia . Look to the little general and the Nazi .
 

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During the second Trump administration the United States has engaged in hybrid warfareand subversive activity against Greenland, an autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark. The official Danish threat assessment published by the Danish Defence Intelligence Service in 2025 for the first time in its history mentioned the United States as a threat to national security, alongside Russia and China.
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Trump has repeatedly refused to rule out using force to seize the strategic Arctic island, prompting shock and anger from Denmark and other longstanding European allies of the United States.
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After a request from Copenhagen to clear up misunderstandings, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said he would soon hold discussions with Danish representatives.
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"I'll be meeting with them next week. We'll have those conversations with them then," Rubio told reporters.
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White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said that Trump and his national security team have "actively discussed" the option of buying Greenland with themselves? By force?
The US has deep pockets, but Greenland is not for sale, according to both Nuuk and Copenhagen.
European leaders, including in France and Germany, have announced they are working on a plan in the event the United States follows through on its threat to take over Greenland as tensions soar.

French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot told France Inter radio on Wednesday that while nations want to act if the US moves to seize Greenland from an ally, Denmark, they want to do so “together with our European partners”.

“I myself was on the phone with the [US] Secretary of State [Marco Rubio] yesterday… He discarded the idea that what just happened in Venezuela could happen in Greenland,” Barrot said.
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In fiscal year (FY) 2024, the United States made $117.9 billion in government-facilitated arms sales (Foreign Military Sales) to all allies and partners, a figure that includes a significant amount to NATO countries. The total value of all U.S. arms exports, including direct commercial sales, reached a record of $318.7 billion in FY 2024. Would that continue if America continues on its current course? Do any of the NATO members really want to find out if America really has a kill switch on the F35’s or not for example?
(YouTube & Trump Puts the Squeeze on Venezuela's Oil & Eyes Greenland as Next Target)
Well it looks like America is going to war with NATO .
 

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Speaking at a meeting with oil and gas executives at the White House, the US president justified his comments by saying: “If we don’t do it, Russia or China will take over Greenland. And we’re not going to have Russia or China as a neighbor.”

He added: “So we’re going to be doing something with Greenland, either the nice way or the more difficult way.”
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Trump has long expressed interest in Greenland, first publicly floating the idea of acquiring the territory in 2019 during his first presidency. The proposal met swift opposition from Danish and Greenlandic leaders.
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Meanwhile, Greenlanders have repeatedly expressed their refusal to be part of the US, with 85% of the population rejecting the idea, according to a 2025 poll. Polling shows only 7% of Americans support the idea of a US military invasion of the territory.
“If it weren’t for me, you wouldn’t have a NATO right now,” Trump said on Friday. “But we’re not going to allow Russia or China to occupy Greenland, and that’s what’s going to happen if we don’t.”

The leaders of five political parties in the Greenlandic parliament issued a united statement on Friday night, soon after the US president reiterated his threats to acquire the mineral-rich island.

“We don’t want to be Americans, we don’t want to be Danish, we want to be Greenlanders,” said the group, which included the island’s prime minister, Jens-Frederik Nielsen. “The future of Greenland must be decided by Greenlanders.”

Stressing the desire of the people of Greenland, a former Danish colony, to have self-determination, they said: “No other country can meddle in this. We must decide our country’s future ourselves – without pressure to make a hasty decision, without procrastination, and without interference from other countries.”

The statement was signed by Nielsen, his predecessor as prime minister, Múte B Egede, and Pele Broberg, Aleqa Hammond and Aqqalu C Jerimiassen.
Since the 19th century, the United States has made several attempts to acquire the island of Greenland from Denmark. There were notable internal discussions within the U.S. federal government about acquiring Greenland in 1867, 1910, 1946, 1955, 2019, and 2025, and acquisition has been advocated by American secretaries of state William H. Seward and James F. Byrnes, privately by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller, and publicly by President Donald Trump, among others, with the reply consistently being an hard no. Greenland is not for sale.

During World War II, the U.S. invoked its Monroe Doctrine and occupied Greenland to prevent use by Germany following the German occupation of Denmark. The U.S. military remained in Greenland after the war, and by 1948, Denmark abandoned attempts to persuade the US to leave.

The following year, both countries became members of the NATOmilitary alliance. A 1951 treaty gave the US a significant role in Greenland's defense, and, about 1953, construction began on Thule military base, now known as Pituffik Space Base, located in northwest Greenland.

The U.S. military frequently takes part in NATO exercises in Greenlandic waters.
 

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Speaking at a meeting with oil and gas executives at the White House, the US president justified his comments by saying: “If we don’t do it, Russia or China will take over Greenland. And we’re not going to have Russia or China as a neighbor.”
They don't have Russia as a neighbour? Have they not looked out of Sarah Palin's kitchen window?